Off Topic Corona virus

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There were some rumors that it won't get EU approval because of its low efficacy. A few German papers recently claimed it's as low as 8% in over 65's, this almost certainly isn't true, but it does appear to be lower that the Pfizer one. The issue Astrazeneca have is that they started trials primarily focusing on the under 55's so there's not much data to dispute the number.

Public opinion seems to moving towards Pfizer too as anecdotally, there seem to be a lot more people reporting stronger side effects from Astrazeneca.

Even if it is a little less effective though, I can't see a reason for not approving it. As you say, it seems to be more about public bargaining with the pro/anti EU rhetoric rather than coming up with actual solutions.
I’ve had the Astra/Zeneca and no side effects whatsoever.
If the Germans had brought out the Astra/Zeneca vaccine they would have been reporting 110%
commentators should report on fact not fiction
 
The EU on Monday called for tight controls on coronavirus vaccine exports after top officials all but accused U.K.-based AstraZeneca of cutting supplies intended for EU countries in order to sell doses to other nations at higher prices.

The move came after two contentious vaccine steering board meetings on Monday between EU and national officials and representatives of the British-Swedish pharmaceutical conglomerate, which informed Brussels on Friday that vaccine production would fall far short of its contractual obligations to the EU.


that's a laugh considering the Germans only put an order in for the medicine last week, then they were spreading **** about the Oxford virus vaccine but its one of the best
 
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Just been looking at some figures
Deaths per 100k
UK 1447
France 1125
Spain 1202
Italy 1422
Germany 636
No doubt in the spirit of the EU and brotherly love the Germans will donate some of their vaccines
To the less fortunate member states
Ps don’t hold you breath
 
Just been looking at some figures
Deaths per 100k
UK 1447
France 1125
Spain 1202
Italy 1422
Germany 636
No doubt in the spirit of the EU and brotherly love the Germans will donate some of their vaccines
To the less fortunate member states
Ps don’t hold you breath
thats bollocks mate the Germans are massaging figs 1244 died in 1 day in December alone
 
this is in German but just watch the pictures, the vaccines were only ordered by the government last week, so far the only ones to be vaccinated are government officials, MPs and their families. Germany has made a dogs cock of the virus and are massaging the figures so they look good on the world stage


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people keep picking on the government the way they are handling the crisis but compared to Europe we are doing great but Europe papers don't publish wats happening

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FRENCH POLICE HAVE THE WHOLE CONTRY ON LOCKDOWN BUT THEY CANT STOP THE PARIS PROTESTS

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Lee Rigby’s killer fighting for life in hospital with Covid

One of Lee Rigby’s killers is fighting for his life in hospital after catching coronavirus. It was reported Michael Adebowale, 29, was moved from Broadmoor Hospital last week after his condition deteriorated.

A source told the Sun: ‘He’s in a very bad way and fighting for every breath. ‘It’s reached the stage where it’s a 24/7 battle. If he deteriorates much further, intensive care would be the next step. He’s very young to be affected so badly.’ Adebowale and Michael Adebolajo ran over 25-year-old Fusilier Rigby close to Woolwich Barracks, in south-east London, in May 2013 before stabbing him to death in broad daylight.

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The dad-of-one died as a result of multiple cut and stab wounds after the attack fuelled by Adebowale and Adebolajo’s extremist beliefs, described as a ‘betrayal of Islam’ at their murder trial in 2014. Adebowale is serving a life sentence for the brutal killing. The 25-year-old soldier was brutally killed in broad daylight in May 2013 close to Woolwich Barracks.

Lee’s mum, Lyn Rigby, 53, said: ‘It would not be justice for Covid-19 to take this man prematurely and end the sentence handed to him. ‘We’ve maintained true justice for Lee is to see his killers remain behind bars and serve every day of their sentence.’ Adebowale was said to have tested positive a fortnight ago, and is receiving oxygen but not on a ventilator.

We shouldn't waste money saving this ****s life - apart from the cost of a rope or a bullet.
 
We shouldn't waste money saving this ****s life - apart from the cost of a rope or a bullet.
hopefully they will pass the new law that Priti is pushing for that wipes out the humanitarian laws the Blairs Pushed through to Help Cheri get more business for her humanitarian law agenda
 
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