Off Topic Corona virus

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Heard this the other day, now on the BBC website:

“Northern Ireland has a death rate of 26 per 100,000 people, compared to 46 per 100,000 in England and Wales and 51 per 100,000 in Scotland.“

Helps having a smaller population and being an island off an island I suppose.
 
Heard this the other day, now on the BBC website:

“Northern Ireland has a death rate of 26 per 100,000 people, compared to 46 per 100,000 in England and Wales and 51 per 100,000 in Scotland.“

Helps having a smaller population and being an island off an island I suppose.
Possibly also comes from a big chunk of the Norn population being trained in self-preservation during the troubles & applying the same principles today.

TBH, I don't know if I'll ever fully believe any figures issued by any country. As we all know, political agenda is far more important than truth.
 
The Labour MP Rosie Duffield has resigned as a party whip after admitting breaching the coronavirus lockdown rules.

The member for Canterbury has apologised after it was revealed she went for a walk with her partner, who she did not live with at the time, when the Government guidance forbade people from different households from meeting up.

She has now stepped down from Labour’s frontbench, saying she had been "attempting to navigate a difficult personal situation”.

The 48-year-old did not deny to the The Mail on Sunday, which broke the story, that the man had also visited her constituency home.

Ms Duffield said the pair observed the two-metre social distancing rules during the walk in April, and are now believed to be living in the same property after her partner separated from his wife.


Typical Labour
 
This idiot should be jailed


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A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF EARLY DETECTION: THIRTEEN QUARANTINED AFTER FLIGHT TO LANZAROTE WITH COVID-19 PASSENGER, A SECOND PASSENGER ALSO HAS SYMPTOMS
Posted by The Canary | May 30, 2020 | [HASHTAG]#TheCanaryCoronaVirus[/HASHTAG], [HASHTAG]#Tourism0[/HASHTAG], Health, investigation, Transport, Transport | 0 |

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Thirteen passengers have been quarantined, as soon as they landed in Lanzarote yesterday, having travelled on a plane from Madrid, which had also been boarded by man who was awaiting the results of COVID-19 diagnostic tests, despite being warned of that he should not fly, as he was suspected of potentially having been infected.


The Canary Islands Government’s Health Minister, Jesús López, has said that one other passenger with symptoms was also detected on the same flight, who has been transferred to hospital for initial coronavirus tests.

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Prevention protocols were suddenly activated while the plane was in mid-flight, after the Public Health department of the Junta de Castilla-La Mancha, in the central region of mainland Spain between Madrid and Valencia, communicated results of coronavirus tests to members of a family, from Ciudad Real, who had been in contact with a patient, the mother of the man, who died with coronavirus.

Sources from the Canarian and Castilian-La Mancha governments have confirmed that the passenger had travelled from Lanzarote to Ciudad Real to be with his mother during her last days of life, as the family had been notified that the woman, who was suffering from cancer, was already in a terminal phase.

Once the man had arrived at the health centre, where his mother was a patient, he was informed that she had also tested positive for COVID-19, so he was allowed no direct contact with her. His mother passed away on May 23.

He did have contact with his father though, and with his brothers, who in turn had had contact with the patient before she was diagnosed and quarantined. As a consequence, PCR tests were carried out on the entire family, including the son who had arrived from Lanzarote.

At that time, health personnel told the man that he was not to travel until he had received the results, sources consulted at the governments of Castilla-La Mancha and the Canary Islands confirm this to be the case.

Despite this advice, the man took a plane from Madrid to Lanzarote on the morning of Friday, May 29. Shortly after take-off, the results arrived, and Castilia-La Mancha Ministry of Health officials tried to communicate them to the family members by phone, but when they could not locate him, they resorted to notifying his relatives.

Sources from the Canary Islands Ministry of Health have indicated that the passenger’s sister was able to contact him and informed him of the positive test results. She too had just learned that morning that she had contracted COVID-19 and was also waiting to catch a plane in the next few days, flying to another European country.

The passenger himself informed the crew and pilot of the plane of his diagnosis, invoking in-flight protocols with instructions for him to be seated and isolated in the rear seats of the aircraft for the rest of the flight.

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Thirteen other travellers were also ordered into isolation upon arrival on Lanzarote having occupied the two rows ahead of his, or those seats closest to him, along with another passenger with whom he had been talking for about fifteen minutes at the airport.

In principle, the protocol stipulates that all of them serve 14 days of quarantine, while new tests are carried out.

The director of Spain’s Centre for the Coordination of Health Alerts and Emergencies, Fernando Simón, has highlighted the speed with which all involved have acted, identifying and isolating a COVID-19 positive passenger, who was in flight from Ciudad Real to Lanzarote, all within 4 hours of the facts being discovered.

“It is a clear example of early detection” said Simon in his daily appearance before the Spanish media to report on all Spain’s latest pandemic data.

Canarian Minister of Health, Julio Pérez, praised the man for immediately identifying himself to the flight crew, helping to limit risk to other passengers, but warned that legal proceedings will have to be initiated because this passenger had failed to comply with instructions to wait for the results of the tests before travelling.

He added too that another passenger appeared to be presenting symptoms and so was sent to hospital to undergo tests.

The Cabildo de Lanzarote have additionally offered all those who were on the plane the option to staying in an aparthotel, in conditions of voluntary isolation, just in case they may prefer to be away from their families for a while. Thirty-five travellers have accepted the offer, a spokesperson for the Canary Islands Ministry of Health told Efe.

Until the State of Emergency ends, flights from the Peninsula to the Canary Islands can only be taken by people who can prove that they are returning to their primary residence, travelling for work, are going to take care of a relative or have other acceptable reasons such as force majeure. Everyone travelling is expected to to make a declaration regarding their health and suitability to travel.



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The Labour MP Rosie Duffield has resigned as a party whip after admitting breaching the coronavirus lockdown rules.

The member for Canterbury has apologised after it was revealed she went for a walk with her partner, who she did not live with at the time, when the Government guidance forbade people from different households from meeting up.

She has now stepped down from Labour’s frontbench, saying she had been "attempting to navigate a difficult personal situation”.

The 48-year-old did not deny to the The Mail on Sunday, which broke the story, that the man had also visited her constituency home.

Ms Duffield said the pair observed the two-metre social distancing rules during the walk in April, and are now believed to be living in the same property after her partner separated from his wife.


Typical Labour

yeh typical. Fancy resigning for breaking lockdown rules. Never see a Tory do that
 
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yeh typical. Fancy resigning for breaking lockdown rules. Never see a Tory do that

Fancy breaking the rules full stop tbh, not like they could've been much clearer. Whilst I'm hardly a fan of the tories, they're all as bad as each other. How can you be telling your constituents to follow the government rules and then brazenly flout them yourself? Whilst she's done the right thing in stepping down, I don't think she deserves to be commended for her decision. Her excuse is ridiculous: complex relationship situation? She was dating a man who was still married and living with someone else. Fine, I'm not going to judge their relationship, but you're not from the same household as him so don't ****ing meet him! Really not much more complicated than that. People have missed funerals, gone without seeing family and friends, not been able to visit their loved ones in hospital, but she couldn't go without seeing her boyfriend for a few weeks. Everyone is in the same situation. **** them all, they're all as bad as each other.
 
yeh typical. Fancy resigning for breaking lockdown rules. Never see a Tory do that
Not fit to be party whip but apparently still acceptable to be MP for Canterbury.

How does that work from an ethical point of view ?

Don't get me wrong not defending Cummings, he should have resigned in my opinion.
 
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Wow rattled a few cages I see. I’m not defending her... anybody who flaunts the rules should be treated equally.

I was picking up on Matt’s comment which was ridiculous.
 
Not fit to be party whip but apparently still acceptable to be MP for Canterbury.

How does that work from an ethical point of view ?

Don't get me wrong not defending Cummings, he should have resigned in my opinion.

I guess they’d argue that would be for her constituents to decide - given we’ve proven that breaking the rules you set yourself and lying about it are acceptable why should she fcking resign at all. Not like there’s any morality left to fight over.

But yeh of course I think she should resign.
 
Not fit to be party whip but apparently still acceptable to be MP for Canterbury.

How does that work from an ethical point of view ?

Don't get me wrong not defending Cummings, he should have resigned in my opinion.

what do you think he should resign for?

breaking the rules? covering it up? lying about the reasons? trying to big himself up as some prophet of Coronavirus and changing on old blog to refer to it? or for promoting herd immunity and changing his mind and lying about that too?

just business as usual for a career psychopath
 
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yeh typical. Fancy resigning for breaking lockdown rules. Never see a Tory do that
Think she's only given up the whip, so she can't vote for a while, not resigned as an MP or lost her wages. In fact it means she wants to carry on getting the money without doing the work.
How insulting is that, I won't represent the voters, just take the cash while they have no representation.
 
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The Labour MP Rosie Duffield has resigned as a party whip after admitting breaching the coronavirus lockdown rules.

The member for Canterbury has apologised after it was revealed she went for a walk with her partner, who she did not live with at the time, when the Government guidance forbade people from different households from meeting up.

She has now stepped down from Labour’s frontbench, saying she had been "attempting to navigate a difficult personal situation”.

The 48-year-old did not deny to the The Mail on Sunday, which broke the story, that the man had also visited her constituency home.

Ms Duffield said the pair observed the two-metre social distancing rules during the walk in April, and are now believed to be living in the same property after her partner separated from his wife.


Typical Labour
I guess it is typical Labour. If it was a tory, they would have been battering lumps out of each other in a BDSM club or something equally kinky & no doubt involving arseholes (I'll leave that to your imagination).
 
Think she's only given up the whip, so she can't vote for a while, not resigned as an MP or lost her wages. In fact it means she wants to carry on getting the money without doing the work.
How insulting is that, I won't represent the voters, just take the cash while they have no representation.
WJ is correct.

She hasn't resigned the whip but has left her role within the whips office.

As they are in opposition and facing a quite large tory majority I'm not exactly sure how much whipping would actually be required.
 
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