Off Topic Corona virus

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The msm need to ****in stop with the dramatics, if this bug doesnt kill the elderly the fear will, the fear of being 'isolated from the rest of the world'
The majority of the old dears STAY AT HOME anyway, saying things like 'self isolate is scaring the vulnerable fo'fuxske,
I called round to my elderly neighbour to see if she was ok and needed anything the poor old dear was frightened that she was gonna be abandoned after watching BBfuckinC news :mad:
 
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This is all bollocks and totally unnecessary disruption. The over 70's and those with underlying issues should stay at home - fair enough. But the rest of us should be able to carry on with our normal lives - if we get the thing, we get it.

We should be allowed to take our chances. After all, that's what we do in normal day to day life anyway, even crossing the road is not risk free.

The country should be allowed to go to work. All those of working age with no health issues, if they contract the virus, would be off for 7 days, 14 days tops - then back to work and some kind of normality.

Face it head on - we can't keep treading on eggshells for months on end. It's like a slow death doing that anyway.
 
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ristac said:
Where did you read that, the Daily Mirror ;)

99% had other things wrong with them
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

They’re also saying those infected in Italy are far higher than numbers suggest as only those showing symptoms are being tested.
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I read it in the Lancet.<ok>

It was a scientific article by 2 Italian Professors. Bloomberg are usually reliable too so I don’t know why there’s a discrepancy.


COVID-19 and Italy: what next?
Published:March 13, 2020DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(20)30627-9
 
2020VisionofLeeds said:
I read it in the Lancet.<ok>

It was a scientific article by 2 Italian Professors. Bloomberg are usually reliable too so I don’t know why there’s a discrepancy.


COVID-19 and Italy: what next?
Published:March 13, 2020DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(20)30627-9
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1/3 had nothing wrong with them... apart from being old

the stats comparing Italy and Korea are quite interesting... highest mortality v lowest mortality.

italy have done far less testing, typically those that go to hospital, they have the second oldest population in the world and often live in family groups with grand parents. In Korea the people getting it have been Largely young female none-smokers. In Italy the deaths are largely male old and often smokers.

Same disease in Totally different societies. So which society are we closest to? Italy, obviously, except we shove our oldies into care homes at the first opportunity.

so I’d expect our rates to be bad but not not as bad as Italy... if we can keep the spread at a pace that doesn’t completely overload the nhs. Which ultimately is what all this is about, as we’re all going to get it bar those ‘saved’ by herd immunity further down the line, unless a vaccine gets fast-tracked.
 
ristac said:
Tube not allowed but over crowded supermarkets with grubby hands all over the trolly are fine. The average person is probably stopping at two supermarkets as they’re all out of stock, they’re stopping at every corner shop or small independent on the way and I assume they’re all receiving some change in the form of loose change and new plastic notes, are the PDQ machines keypads being sterilised after each use? No social gatherings but supermarkets are fine, it’s a joke
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And the shops are getting worse as the all the students and kids are soon to be home. My local shop which has been very reliable for staples was ravaged by zombie hoards yesterday who came from nowhere - cleared the place of bread, milk, fruit and veg, soup, pasta, rice etc. Think it was a planned attack from outside the area as it’s mainly the elderly around here.
 
OLOF said:
The msm need to ****in stop with the dramatics, if this bug doesnt kill the elderly the fear will, the fear of being 'isolated from the rest of the world'
The majority of the old dears STAY AT HOME anyway, saying things like 'self isolate is scaring the vulnerable fo'fuxske,
I called round to my elderly neighbour to see if she was ok and needed anything the poor old dear was frightened that she was gonna be abandoned after watching BBfuckinC news :mad:
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Good for you to go and see her. Am at my mums old place on the south coast at the moment. Mostly retired community, hardly seen them all week. Someone local put a slip of paper through everyone’s doors the other night offering to collect shipping etc. This was legit but we need to keep an eye on scammers because they will soon be offering to take money off the elderly to ‘go and do some shopping for you’. There are cases of people selling corona virus test kits door to door in London to the vulnerable. Let her know.
 
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LeeUtd said:
And the shops are getting worse as the all the students and kids are soon to be home. My local shop which has been very reliable for staples was ravaged by zombie hoards yesterday who came from nowhere - cleared the place of bread, milk, fruit and veg, soup, pasta, rice etc. Think it was a planned attack from outside the area as it’s mainly the elderly around here.
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I’m afraid this will continue until the government steps in to stop it and yes it means troops on the streets so what
Goes to prove my point society generally is starting to break down
Only government intervention can do anything to try and stop it
There should also be a law against profiting
 
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LeeUtd said:
Good for you to go and see her. Am at my mums old place on the south coast at the moment. Mostly retired community, hardly seen them all week. Someone local put a slip of paper through everyone’s doors the other night offering to collect shipping etc. This was legit but we need to keep an eye on scammers because they will soon be offering to take money off the elderly to ‘go and do some shopping for you’. There are cases of people selling corona virus test kits door to door in London to the vulnerable. Let her know.
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Already told her to be careful lee, didnt want to alarm her more than she aleady is, told her if she needs anything or any strangers call to phone me or the missus
But she knew that before all this bollox started<ok>
 
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Eric Le Merde said:
Well fancy that, I guess you're in lock down now after being advised by our premier to avoid contact with anybody, even family. You do know that doesn't give you carte blanche to bug us though?
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No, not in lock-down, Eric and seriously don't think I will be. I can't imagine being couped up for a month for no good reason. F*ck our Premier (with yours, not mine) I think she's a twat of the first order who only comes out of the woodwork when their is a vote to be counted. And if I am put into lockdown, beware, I shall bug the buggery out of you. :emoticon-0172-mooni :emoticon-0173-middl :emoticon-0183-swear :steam: Where's Parsley?
 
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brisbane-lion said:
No, not in lock-down, Eric and seriously don't think I will be. I can't imagine being couped up for a month for no good reason. F*ck our Premier (with yours, not mine) I think she's a twat of the first order who only comes out of the woodwork when their is a vote to be counted. And if I am put into lockdown, beware, I shall bug the buggery out of you. :emoticon-0172-mooni :emoticon-0173-middl :emoticon-0183-swear :steam: Where's Parsley?
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How's your buisines, don't you have a restaurant or something.
 
ristac said:
This sounds callous I know and if either were my family I’d feel different but the last two reported deaths in my Town.. One a 92 year old man. One a guy who had motor neurone disease, in 2018 he was given two years to live.

Each time I hear of a death I also hear people say how old were they and did they have anything wrong with them? The minute we all find out that they were old or did have an underlying condition for the majority it’s a shrug of the shoulders “oh well” attitude.
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Just interviewed a Doctor in the worst affected area of Italy, 50% over 65 years old, 50% under and lots of 20,30,40 year olds critical he said although more younger ones survive.
 
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