Off Topic Corona virus

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wakeycentraloneleeds said:
Really? so they arrived on an empty aircraft did they?. Where did the get the virus from who were they in contact with. It was not a non stop flight they changed twice it goes further than N. Z.
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Anybody arriving in NZ or Brisbane where the aircraft transited en route to NZ, I assume an Emirate flight will, if leaving to get off in NZ or Oz have gone into mandatory Quarantine.
 
Eric Le Merde said:
Anybody arriving in NZ or Brisbane where the aircraft transited en route to NZ, I assume an Emirate flight will, if leaving to get off in NZ or Oz have gone into mandatory Quarantine.
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Even if they quarantine though they don't float in an airtight bubble to quarantine. They still touch things, get in cars and go through doors on their way.

As long as people are entering the country there is the chance for a small amount of cases which isn't a problem if there are still social distancing measures to keep the R rate below zero but all it takes is for someone to touch the same door knob and then go to a sports event and then you're back into exponential growth and lockdown measures again.
 
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lufctommo said:
Even if they quarantine though they don't float in an airtight bubble to quarantine. They still touch things, get in cars and go through doors on their way.

As long as people are entering the country there is the chance for a small amount of cases which isn't a problem if there are still social distancing measures to keep the R rate below zero but all it takes is for someone to touch the same door knob and then go to a sports event and then you're back into exponential growth and lockdown measures again.
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They stopped twice enroute it says in the article i put up. So already its been spread everywhere 3 times on and off an aircraft would have been enough to spread it.
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
Don't see it ever going away unless we get a vaccine, while Europe and parts of the world are controlling it, worldwide numbers are still increasing.
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they never go away, without human intervention. Even then, I think it’s only smallpox that we’ve managed to eradicate.

more common is people develop immunity they get milder, resurface periodically. Which is what has happened with other coronaviruses.
 
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lufctommo said:
Even if they quarantine though they don't float in an airtight bubble to quarantine. They still touch things, get in cars and go through doors on their way.

As long as people are entering the country there is the chance for a small amount of cases which isn't a problem if there are still social distancing measures to keep the R rate below zero but all it takes is for someone to touch the same door knob and then go to a sports event and then you're back into exponential growth and lockdown measures again.
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Quite true but I'm not sure of the consequences of keeping R blow zero
 
lufctommo said:
Even if they quarantine though they don't float in an airtight bubble to quarantine. They still touch things, get in cars and go through doors on their way.

As long as people are entering the country there is the chance for a small amount of cases which isn't a problem if there are still social distancing measures to keep the R rate below zero but all it takes is for someone to touch the same door knob and then go to a sports event and then you're back into exponential growth and lockdown measures again.
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Sorry Tom I know you meant 1. They take quite a lot of precautions between the planes and the quarantine hotel but there are sometimes local transmissions as a result. So far we have had 2 identified local infections caused by the several thousand returning Australians.
 
TC (Lovely Geezer) said:
"If this offends you jog on"

A thought provoking passage written by an Englishman about the current situation in my homeland - this is thought provoking and is equally relevant in any other (once) white country.

I have been wondering about why whites are racists, and no other race is?

There are British Africans, British Chinese, British Asian, British Turks, etc, etc, etc.

And then there are just British. You know what I mean, plain ole English people that were born here. You can include the Welsh, the Scottish and the people who live off our shores of Great Britain.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you. So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the Muslim Council of Great Britain.

You have Black History Month.

You have swimming pools for Asian women.

You have Islamic banks for Muslims only.

You have year of the dragon day for Chinese people.

If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.

If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black Britain or Miss Asia, but any colour can be in the Miss UK.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.

There are over 200 openly proclaimed Muslim only schools in England. Yet if there were 'White schools only', that would be racist!

In the Bradford riots and Toxteth riots, you believed that you were standing-up for your race and rights. If we stood-up for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

We fly our flag, we are racists. If we celebrate St George's day we are racists.

You can fly your flag and it’s called diversity. You celebrate your cultures and it’s called multiculturalism.

I am proud.... but you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??

There is nothing improper about this message. Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on.

I sadly don't think many will. That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for ourselves!

BEING PROUD TO BE WHITE! It's not a crime, YET... but its getting very close!

It has been estimated that ONLY 5% of those reaching this point in this message will pass it on!
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One of the best factual posts on here I have seen in a long while..... does anyone want to challenge these points?????
 
wakeycentraloneleeds said:
Is this trivial enough for you eric?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-in-military-after-covid-19-quarantine-fiasco
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Is there a point that you are trying to make? There was a failing in the NZ system and they are asking a senior military figure to examine their processes and make sure this doesn't happen again. They thought that their systems were OK but obviously not as good as they thought so they are going to get them better. How is the UK doing?
 
Eric Le Merde said:
Is there a point that you are trying to make? There was a failing in the NZ system and they are asking a senior military figure to examine their processes and make sure this doesn't happen again. They thought that their systems were OK but obviously not as good as they thought so they are going to get them better. How is the UK doing?
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We are doing as i expected lots of idiots crowding in to shops started yesterday. We though do not claim to be winning and celebrating prematurely. No pubs or restaurants or clubs etc open here. I can only imagine it will be a free for all when they do.
So to answer your question there is a sizeable minority intent on undoing the work and dedication of the majority. So we will keep getting this virus back untile it dies down like other viruses. We have lots of countries within easy reach of our island so i expect more infections and deaths.
 
wakeycentraloneleeds said:
We are doing as i expected lots of idiots crowding in to shops started yesterday. We though do not claim to be winning and celebrating prematurely. No pubs or restaurants or clubs etc open here. I can only imagine it will be a free for all when they do.
So to answer your question there is a sizeable minority intent on undoing the work and dedication of the majority. So we will keep getting this virus back untile it dies down like other viruses. We have lots of countries within easy reach of our island so i expect more infections and deaths.
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That's not good news. I'm in Oz not NZ and we are not celebrating. We had 21 new cases in Victoria, 15 or which were returning citizens in isolation and 1 new case in NSW and QLD but both in quarantine. The rest of the states had no new cases. We still have a few hundred people with the virus but we are getting there, but it's going to be a long haul.
 
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wakeycentraloneleeds said:
We are doing as i expected lots of idiots crowding in to shops started yesterday. We though do not claim to be winning and celebrating prematurely. No pubs or restaurants or clubs etc open here. I can only imagine it will be a free for all when they do.
So to answer your question there is a sizeable minority intent on undoing the work and dedication of the majority. So we will keep getting this virus back untile it dies down like other viruses. We have lots of countries within easy reach of our island so i expect more infections and deaths.
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Bars and restaurants opening here from 3rd July. I'll be steering well clear for a long while. <ok>
 
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