Confirmed: Will Still sacked

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Sack now?

  • Yes

    Votes: 84 79.2%

  • No

    Votes: 22 20.8%
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Saints FC 76 said:
Didn’t go yesterday but having read the match thread it seems like the players aren’t playing for Still.

They are more than capable of passing a ball but sounds like they can’t even manage that.

So either they’ve stopped playing for him or he doesn’t give them the confidence to perform. Maybe both?

As unforgivable as that is from the players, it all points to Still needing to go. Like others, I feel bad for him but ultimately you have to be ruthless.

The absolute amateurism from SR to not get Rohl when they wanted him (and a decent striker) has ruined our season.
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He just doesn't have the gravitas or personality, maybe he sounded a bit more authoritative speaking in French at Lens.
It always appeared to be a gamble of an appointment and the club simply has to play it more safe with the next manager.
 
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Shandy_top_89 said:
I will be honest with you, I dont think we have a 'very good' squad.

We have the odd promotion worthy player and we certainly don't have the '21st' best squad on paper, but there are whole areas that aren't promotion quality and there could be a case for us having the worst striker situation in the league, it is definitely weaker than the side RM had.

Goalkeepers - McCarthy and Bazunu are mediocre.

Centre Back - Our defence was pretty poor when we got promoted last time anyway and now it is down Bednarek. Stephens is done, THB is overrated as they come and has always looked error prone with a strop problem, Wood and Edwards at best have been mid table Championship, Quarshie is very hit and miss so far.

Full Backs/ Wing Backs - Manning and Roerslev in fairness have promotion experience, but being down a KWP on last time is a massive downgrade. Welington offers nothing. Jelert is still slightly unknown.

Central Mid - Charles, Downes and Jander seems reasonable tbf.

Attacking Mid / Wingers - This is the one area where I would say we are actually overflowing with potential and they have been creating plenty of chances, but that means nothing without.....

Strikers - Someone needs sacking for this. Who looked at Stewart, Archer and Downs and thought 'that'll do'. Archer is nowhere near as good as people sometimes claim either. He had an 18 month purple patch three years ago. Looked off it at Sheffield United and then has never really looked good enough here under multiple managers. He was third choice behind Stewart and Onuachu by the end of last season for a reason.

The lack of strikers and mediocre goalkeepers and defence make this a mid table side at best for me. No point having a bucket full of decent attacking midfielders when they have no striker to work with and an unreliable back line behind them.
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I agree with this.
 
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Saints FC 76 said:
What did they say?
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SR need to hold their hands up that they have it wrong. That SR won't sack themselves so Will most likely will get the chop. That the football played must be based on training, and this clearly isn't yielding results. Players being played out of position and are they actually playing for the manager now? Also, some players been here for too long and likely not got the fight. Worth a listen, and not too long.
 
Libby said:
I'm still much preferring this season to last. Not everyone wanted away fans moved either.

Being out of the northam helps tbh.
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Although my post was very much tongue in cheek, the point I was making was relevant because I don't know what people want.
In fairness you've always been pretty consistent about not wanting to be in the PL, but IMO you can't be a decent championship side, playing decent football without being a promotion prospect. To stay in this division you have to be **** without being totally **** or else you risk being relegated. Which is where we are now, but only a small improvement would see us about half way standard.
There are a number of teams who have been in this league for quite a while (Bristol City, Stoke, WBA, Middlesbrough etc) without threatening to get promotion but also not being totally ****. They appear to have got the balance that quite a few on here seemed to have wanted. In other words a majority of underwhelming games to counter the times when it all comes together. Stoke and Middlesbrough will have to be careful this season and end up getting promoted. Always a risk if you carelessly achieve a decent standard of football all season.

Would the fans be happy with a generally poor team but with a few decent performances? I'm not sure a yo-yo team is the answer either, the misery of relegations outweigh the excitement of promotions IMO.

One of the comments about a small club like ours being in the PL is that we've got no hope of winning anything and would only ever achieve mid table mediocrity. But unless the aim is to get promoted then we will be in the same situation as when we were in the PL but only at a much worse standard.
 
Libby said:
The next manager needs to be somebody who's main strengths aren't tactical but motivational. Need someone who'll take no **** and will have players running through walls for him whilst not being afraid to cast aside anyone not willing to get on board.

It was a bit of a mad thought based on adrenaline yesterday but I genuinely think someone like Warnock is exactly what we need.
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A million times no. His last managerial job was at Aberdeen, albeit on an interim basis. He didn`t take it seriously and treated it like it was a holiday job. I was hoping for some aggression and motivation - all we got was sound bites and feeble jokes.
 
Shandy_top_89 said:
Strikers - Someone needs sacking for this. Who looked at Stewart, Archer and Downs and thought 'that'll do'. Archer is nowhere near as good as people sometimes claim either. He had an 18 month purple patch three years ago. Looked off it at Sheffield United and then has never really looked good enough here under multiple managers. He was third choice behind Stewart and Onuachu by the end of last season for a reason.

The lack of strikers and mediocre goalkeepers and defence make this a mid table side at best for me. No point having a bucket full of decent attacking midfielders when they have no striker to work with and an unreliable back line behind them.
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I remember thinking I was going mad in the Summer transfer threads because I was banging on about needing a striker and people were adamant that we didn’t need one and that we had more than enough attacking options and would walk in goals. It was infuriating. It was so clear that we would struggle to score goals when we only had strikers that have been a year without any form.
 
West Kent Saint said:
SR need to hold their hands up that they have it wrong. That SR won't sack themselves so Will most likely will get the chop. That the football played must be based on training, and this clearly isn't yielding results. Players being played out of position and are they actually playing for the manager now? Also, some players been here for too long and likely not got the fight. Worth a listen, and not too long.
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Been here too long? I’m struggling to think what players they are referring too. Most of the players have only been with us 2/3 years maximum. McCarthy is the longest but it’s hard to say a Goalkeeper has no fight, he’s just never been any good for a consistent time. And the other is Armstrong who always tries but again, just can’t seem to get it right.

I think it’s just a nice way of saying it’s a **** squad,
 
Deserana said:
I remember thinking I was going mad in the Summer transfer threads because I was banging on about needing a striker and people were adamant that we didn’t need one and that we had more than enough attacking options and would walk in goals. It was infuriating. It was so clear that we would struggle to score goals when we only had strikers that have been a year without any form.
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Mr. Defensive has made things look far worse by playing seven defenders every game. There are goals in this squad.
 
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Deserana said:
Been here too long? I’m struggling to think what players they are referring too. Most of the players have only been with us 2/3 years maximum. McCarthy is the longest but it’s hard to say a Goalkeeper has no fight, he’s just never been any good for a consistent time. And the other is Armstrong who always tries but again, just can’t seem to get it right.

I think it’s just a nice way of saying it’s a **** squad,
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Technically, Stephens is the longest; joined the club in 2011, and made his debut in 2012. The last link (in the playing squad) to our promotion side.
 
CowtownKiwi said:
I can't believe there's still 20 people on here, that want to keep him! The players have no interest in playing for him, and look like they have completely tuned him out.
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The thread was stsrted on 20th September and reflects the fact that 6 weeks have passed. I think yesterday's debacle will have changed a few opinions. I am now thinking Still won't turn things around but the club needs a change beyond the coach. There will be no improvement until the people making the decisions are replaced by people who know what they are doing.
 
Hmm, I'll wait for an Alfie or an Adam announcement, to be honest.

And even then, it'll only be met with a meh and a shrug of the shoulders from me.

Sport Republic OUT.
 
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