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lardiman said:
I couldn't find a single workmate who had one shred of sympathy for Scotland.

I've always got it regarding Scotland & Wales fans hating the England team.
But I've never really understood our need to put them down.
Still, I know it's all in good fun really <hug>
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It's only the football team. I can quite happily cheer on the England Rugby or cricket teams in test matches.
 
The Danish manager quoted today that the game should not have restarted on Saturday. Schmeichel said it was absolutely ridiculous. Yesterday a Finnish guy said it was inhumane.
Like f*** the players were consulted.
All lies.
 
Elfs, are you saying the players were forced to play?
That seems incredible.

I might imagine they heard that Christian Eriksen had said he wanted the game to be resumed, so they kind of felt obliged to go back out onto the pitch in order to honour his wishes - even if they themselves didn't really feel like it.

But terms like 'inhumane' and 'absolutely ridiculous' sound bizarre to me.
And perhaps it says something about how highly focused modern players have to be.
Unless they are totally in the Zone, they can't play properly.

That makes more sense to me.
So the Danish and Finnish players were obviously sickened by the event, and their fear that Eriksen was going to die.
I felt sick just watching it on TV.
When I learned that Eriksen was no longer critically ill but had stabilised I was hugely happy and relieved. And I'm sure those players were too.
But that emotional rollercoaster had knocked the players out of the Zone, so their minds were not fully on the match.

I can understand that.
But for me that's more about them than it is about Eriksen or UEFA.

However, if there is proof that UEFA or someone else strong-armed the players into resuming the game with any kind of coercion, my opinion would change radically. Such coercion would be inhuman and unacceptable.
 
lardiman said:
Elfs, are you saying the players were forced to play?
That seems incredible.

I might imagine they heard that Christian Eriksen had said he wanted the game to be resumed, so they kind of felt obliged to go back out onto the pitch in order to honour his wishes - even if they themselves didn't really feel like it.

But terms like 'inhumane' and 'absolutely ridiculous' sound bizarre to me.
And perhaps it says something about how highly focused modern players have to be.
Unless they are totally in the Zone, they can't play properly.

That makes more sense to me.
So the Danish and Finnish players were obviously sickened by the event, and their fear that Eriksen was going to die.
I felt sick just watching it on TV.
When I learned that Eriksen was no longer critically ill but had stabilised I was hugely happy and relieved. And I'm sure those players were too.
But that emotional rollercoaster had knocked the players out of the Zone, so their minds were not fully on the match.

I can understand that.
But for me that's more about them than it is about Eriksen or UEFA.

However, if there is proof that UEFA or someone else strong-armed the players into resuming the game with any kind of coercion, my opinion would change radically. Such coercion would be inhuman and unacceptable.
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These quotes tell me they were asked politely <whistle>
It smells worse than my bum on a Sunday morning!
 
I enjoyed the Denmark - Belgium game yesterday. Given the events at the weekend I was supporting Denmark, who looked ready to steamroll over Belgium in the first half. But after halftime, Belgium showed why they are ranked so highly - the first goal was a thing of joy, and after the second, denmark never really quite knew how to get round the back.
I've been explaining to the family that this evening I have a date with the TV. technically I'd expect England to win this one, and really a drw would see us through, but never write off the Scots. No idea how this will pan out, but I'd expect Scotland to be up for this, and make things as difficult as possible for England. Could do with Harry Kane finding his goal touch again.
 
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Shabby of Toad Hall said:
I enjoyed the Denmark - Belgium game yesterday. Given the events at the weekend I was supporting Denmark, who looked ready to steamroll over Belgium in the first half. But after halftime, Belgium showed why they are ranked so highly - the first goal was a thing of joy, and after the second, denmark never really quite knew how to get round the back.
I've been explaining to the family that this evening I have a date with the TV. technically I'd expect England to win this one, and really a drw would see us through, but never write off the Scots. No idea how this will pan out, but I'd expect Scotland to be up for this, and make things as difficult as possible for England. Could do with Harry Kane finding his goal touch again.
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Given events from 2014 to last year, I wasn't going to support Belgium! :emoticon-0172-mooni
 
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They give good knee.

Are they going to start playing football any time soon?
 
I think this is the first time I've seen a team try to just walk for 90 minutes. And seems like no more changes from the bench. Southgate has made some good players look like a Pratley/Watson combination.
 
After all the talking up, England are timid and mediocre.

4 points is already enough for the round of 16.
But in a knock-out game, England are going to pussy out unless something is changed.
We'll be lucky to get to the quarter-finals.

And here we are playing all our games at Wembley. Home advantage.
Circumstances will never be more in their favour.

Italia '90 this is not.
Euro '96 this is not.
It's as bad as Euro 2016. Utterly forgettable.
 
I thought we should have had a penalty, but if we'd scored it would have been theft - that performance never merited three points. I guess we underestimated Scotland, but why we felt that ultra-slow tippi-tappy football would open up a resolute defence God knows.
 
Group D permutations after yesterday:

The group winners face a potentially tough last-16 clash with the runners-up in Group F (France, Portugal, Germany or Hungary) at Wembley on Tuesday 29 June (17:00).

The runners-up will meet the runners-up in Group E (Spain, Sweden, Poland or Slovakia) in Copenhagen on the Monday (17:00).

Should the third-placed side progress from Group D, they will take on either the Group C winners in Budapest on the Sunday (17:00), the Group B winners later the same day in Seville at 20:00 or the Group E winners in Glasgow on the Tuesday (20:00).

Euro 2020: Standings, fixtures and opponents - all you need to know

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57516261
 
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