Off Topic Climate change/ pollution
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The obvious answer is to do away with the need for a grid. Each building or group of buildings can generate their own power and be self sufficient. Ah but then there's no money for the big players.
There's a group of academics from S.America, Canada and Europe working together to raise funds to do just this but for remote communities, my wife's involved with them and they're very optimistic about their prospects.
And yet over here Amazon (for example) build massive warehouses and don't put panels on the roofs, out of the way and largely out of site. Instead there are plans to take yet another 3000 acres of prime agricultural land out of producing things we can eat and cover it in solar panels. But that's not the end of it, because the panels will be planted in Lincolnshire farmland that doesn't need the energy there needs to be high voltage cables and pylons built to take the energy where it's needed, down south. Madness.
Most of Lincolnshire is prime agricultural land along with the bit below it Cambridgeshire, Norfolk and Suffolk is the bread basket of Britain. The current world record for wheat yields was set in Lincolnshire.
Surprised that this has gone without comment:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/28/business/bill-gates-climate-change
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/28/business/bill-gates-climate-change
don't trust the bloke. strongly suspect him of evil intentions and past deeds.
i've lived through too many failed climate predictions to take any seriously, especially ones thrown up by "climate models" that fail to reflect reality (again). .
It reads more as a criticism of Trump's aid removal than a change of opinion on climate change, as that one causes immediate issues
Having seen USAID in action I can understand why Trump would want to scrap it.
It may do some good somewhere but not in the places I came across it.
As with all aid packages, they only do good if they end up with the people who need them most
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Had to laugh yesterday when the missus told me some of the younger members of staff asked if the building was going to close early due to the rain so they could get off home.
I too am highly sceptical about the whole climate crisis agenda, net zero, etc. and wish we'd just take a sensible steady gradual path toward a less polluted, less consumerist, greener world.
But regarding Gates specifically, why don't you trust him and why do you suspect "evil intentions and past deeds"? Even if I don't agree with everything he believes in, I just don't get the ridiculous critiscism. Can you imagine if you won the Euro lottery and chose to dedicate the rest of your life to using the money and your remaining time to help charitable causes and improve the lives of those suffering only to get insults and the most ridiculous accusations thrown at you. It seems just an inbuilt trait of some people to do that. Jealousy? Mistrust?
He's already given away over £1 billion of his own wealth. He's pledged to give away 99% of his wealth (likely around another £200 billion). He spends his time largely serving good causes around the world with a mission to eradicate polio, preventable deaths of mothers & babies, Guinea worm, malaria, measles, alzheimers, etc. His money brings aid agencies together, improves education, and provides self sufficient energy to communities without.
If he was doing all this just for personal gain and to increase his wealth, then it would be a bit silly given that he's giving 99% of his wealth away (demonstrably on a path to achieve that).
Why this desire to pull down the philophrantic successful?
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He can’t be that generous, the Markles not him got the Humanitarian Of The Year Award,
The Markles can't be that bad, they've both still got titles, and Harry is fifth in line to the throne. At one time Queen Victoria was fifth in line to the throne, oh how I'd laugh for a few quirks of fate.He can’t be that generous, the Markles not him got the Humanitarian Of The Year Award,
It's a big discussion, GFAW. A lot of the criticism is based on that he is using his wealth to guide public policy - philanthrocapitalism is the catchword. Why should a programming billionaire influence vaccine usage in Africa, for example.
Also, buying global properties, farmland, yachts, private planes etc whilst preaching isn't going to go down well with anyone.
Is he generous? He's giving away money that he will never be able to spend himself. Surely someone giving their last spare $50 to charity is being more generous, according to biblical principles.
It doesn't keep me up at night, but the level of wealth that a relative handful of men have on the planet, is worrying for the future.
Much of what Gates on the face of it 'gives away as a philanthropic gesture' ends up making him more than he invested in the first place, and causes harm along the way.
