Transfer Rumours City Transfer Thread - Jan 19

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
Mr Bob said:
Keane, horrid injury record notwithstanding, actually has all the attributes to make a great :emoticon-0102-bigsm striker. If he manages to stay fit and gets a prolonged run in a team there’s every chance he could kick on. Hasn’t happened for him here.
Click to expand...

.... other than the fact that he can't score goals in senior football at this level??!!

Bizarre move by Ipswich who are desperate for someone to score goals for them. Likely sealed their already sealed fate.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GLP
Driff_Tiger said:
.... other than the fact that he can't score goals in senior football at this level??!!

Bizarre move by Ipswich who are desperate for someone to score goals for them. Likely sealed their already sealed fate.
Click to expand...

I'm going to say no he'll score less then 5 and they will still go down
 
Those arguing one way or the other are either arguing if they (in his shoes) would have made a financial decision (Stoke) or a footballing decision (Hull City).

I don’t think it’s so black and white as that.

The plan was never to go to Stoke and play in their U23s. It’ll have been to eventually, in the 5 years contracted, to break into the first team like he was on the verge of doing here with Robertson’s impending departure.

Things change. A loan to MK Dons. A relegation for Stoke to the Championship. A change in manager, etc.

That’s football. It’s not the least bit predictable no matter what you plan.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Newland Tiger and originallambrettaman
Cortez91 said:
Those arguing one way or the other are either arguing if they (in his shoes) would have made a financial decision (Stoke) or a footballing decision (Hull City).

I don’t think it’s so black and white as that.

The plan was never to go to Stoke and play in their U23s. It’ll have been to eventually, in the 5 years contracted, to break into the first team like he was on the verge of doing here with Robertson’s impending departure.

Things change. A loan to MK Dons. A relegation for Stoke to the Championship. A change in manager, etc.

That’s football. It’s not the least bit predictable no matter what you plan.
Click to expand...

I do fully get your view but surely you choose the path with the least risk?

When it involves your future wealth and your families surely you take the path that guarantees your future rather than risk it on a big break in the future?
 
City1904 said:
I do fully get your view but surely you choose the path with the least risk?

When it involves your future wealth and your families surely you take the path that guarantees your future rather than risk it on a big break in the future?
Click to expand...

There will have been less risk (in the first five years at least) going but there’s the aspect of living away from home at a young age without your family in a new town and settling. Doesn’t always happen.
 
City1904 said:
See that is where we differ, also linked to the post of yours before.

If I had a choice of working for Hull City a club I support but a club whose morals are nearly identical to all other football clubs or for Stoke where I could earn millions over 5 years and give me and my family the opportunity to set ourselves up for life I would choose that. I would choose the money that could give my children a great future over playing for Hull City.

He may have been able to move on in the future, but he could have broken his leg or actually turned out to be a poor footballer. Either one of those means in 3 years he may never work in football again.

I would choose the stability of money over the risk you would choose. It's not about trying to earn the most money its about setting your family up for life and making sure they are looked after. Football is a very different industry and hard to compare to our jobs and society. But from a financial and logic point of view I get Tymon's thinking I don't get yours.

Admittedly I work in an industry where we do chase big money and I continue to do so. But I run my own business and the moral's of this business are excellent, I don't think earning big money and working for a company with morals are mutually exclusive.
Click to expand...

I’m pleased that your business operates with morals – it’s what this country/planet needs.

Of course, I understand your logic – it’s obvious. But, my point centred around the fact that loving/supporting a team isn’t logical nor is it always obvious and that, alongside a reasonable offer from City (which may more than ‘provide’), could have been enough for a 19 year old who (I’m assuming) doesn’t have the pressures of providing for a family yet.

Career wise, it looks like the wrong move and to refer back the point that John made earlier, it may ultimately not even be the best financial move in the long term.
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
I’m pleased that your business operates with morals – it’s what this country/planet needs.

Of course, I understand your logic – it’s obvious. But, my point centred around the fact that loving/supporting a team isn’t logical nor is it always obvious and that, alongside a reasonable offer from City (which may more than ‘provide’), could have been enough for a 19 year old who (I’m assuming) doesn’t have the pressures of providing for a family yet.

Career wise, it looks like the wrong move and to refer back the point that John made earlier, it may ultimately not even be the best financial move in the long term.
Click to expand...
I wonder if city 1904 went to university or took the quick money and got a job? Could get run over crossing the road going to uni or trip over your scarf and fall under a bus.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Leon...
Leon T Trout AFC said:
I’m pleased that your business operates with morals – it’s what this country/planet needs.

Of course, I understand your logic – it’s obvious. But, my point centred around the fact that loving/supporting a team isn’t logical nor is it always obvious and that, alongside a reasonable offer from City (which may more than ‘provide’), could have been enough for a 19 year old who (I’m assuming) doesn’t have the pressures of providing for a family yet.

Career wise, it looks like the wrong move and to refer back the point that John made earlier, it may ultimately not even be the best financial move in the long term.
Click to expand...

Just missing the ‘reasonable’ offer bit. Trying to extend the scholarship terms wasn’t reasonable.

I do think he was badly advised but the club didn’t help in trying to keep him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lincoln Tiger
Cortez91 said:
Just missing the ‘reasonable’ offer bit. Trying to extend the scholarship terms wasn’t reasonable.

I do think he was badly advised but the club didn’t help in trying to keep him.
Click to expand...

I only know what is in the public domain, but a range of sources indicated he was made some sort of pro-contract offer, with a wide range of values in what that contract was actually worth.

If it was just extending the scholarship terms alone, then I'd agree with you. But without concrete proof, I'm led to believe he was offered something that befitted his worth and status.
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
I only know what is in the public domain, but a range of sources indicated he was made some sort of pro-contract offer, with a wide range of values in what that contract was actually worth.

If it was just extending the scholarship terms alone, then I'd agree with you. But without concrete proof, I'm led to believe he was offered something that befitted his worth and status.
Click to expand...

His initial offer which you’re talking about was withdrawn. I don’t know why. I think it was around the time Liverpool and Manchester United we’re having a sniff. I’d guess (just my opinion) Josh was advised to not sign anything yet to see where that interest goes, this annoyed the club (or Ehab) and they withdrew their offer.

The second, lesser offer near the end of the season was rejected by the player/agent. There was interest from Stoke and Villa (Watford were rumoured in the press but that was just a case of Silva heading there and Liverpool rumoured but that was just based on them having a look earlier in the season).

The scholarship extension wasn’t successful and he left to Stoke.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
I wonder if city 1904 went to university or took the quick money and got a job? Could get run over crossing the road going to uni or trip over your scarf and fall under a bus.
Click to expand...

I never went to University, I studied to become a Chartered Financial Advisor instead. No degree would allow me to do that so University was completely redundant for me. Numerous years studying, and now run my own firm and just starting another new firm all before the age of 30 so I wouldn't say I am doing badly without any student debt.

Given this background I don't believe in risk, as you try everything you can to minimise risk but you can take managed risks. Personally throwing away thousands of pounds by staying at Hull City is not a managed risk in my eyes.

Your comparison is completely ludicrous given footballers get injured everyday, and footballers fall away and never make the grade annually. I would be surprised if many couldn't complete their degrees due to falling over scarves, but feel free to prove me wrong with facts.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back