Chinese Want Into LFC

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Page_Moss_Kopite said:
If the(so called Chinese) offer comes in and its at least 3 times what FSG paid for LFC ownership I believe they'll sell.

But even if they decide not to they will surely realise that their policy of buying young and hoping they come good will keep us where we are, it will take massive investment to keep up with the manc clubs and the spending power of the north London clubs a Chelsea.
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I think even at 3 times the inpot FSG have sunk... oh.

200mil buy in
50/60mil loans just to balance books
150mil to build new stand

etc etc

they are in for a **** load of cash here.
 
I trust the Americans to an extent based on what we've seen so far but we're still miles off top and following a tinpot transfer policy.

English football has already been ruined and it may take us to be taken over by someone with big bucks to actually make us win things again.

I don't know anything about these Chinese but I do think we could seek further sound investment.
 
bow4fowler said:
I trust the Americans to an extent based on what we've seen so far but we're still miles off top and following a tinpot transfer policy.

English football has already been ruined and it may take us to be taken over by someone with big bucks to actually make us win things again.

I don't know anything about these Chinese but I do think we could seek further sound investment.
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Maybe they'll be the ones who get the naming rights as part of their investment if FSG are being truthful in only allowing a minority stake?

It would also be interesting if a big in flow of cash comes whether Klopp retains his stance on transfers. He was very clear that even if he had the funds available he wouldn't enter the market like a United or Real and spend huge to get the top established stars.

So unless his way works and we attract players based on winning stuff eventually under his methods; is our transfer policy going to change under him no matter the investment or more unbelievably a take over by richer than sense owners?
 
If they buy a minority stake it will be as uneventful as LeBron James buying a sliver of Liverpool. We won't see any change. I've not seen an article yet where FSG have said they want to sell it all.


If they do buy the club that is no guarantee they will splash money around like Gerrez at an a la carte restaurant.
 
Milk - Hanfield dynasty said:
If they buy a minority stake it will be as uneventful as LeBron James buying a sliver of Liverpool. We won't see any change. I've not seen an article yet where FSG have said they want to sell it all.


If they do buy the club that is no guarantee they will splash money around like Gerrez at an a la carte restaurant.
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Last official thing they said was on Friday. Stating categorically they are not selling and do not want to sell the club.

They are open to the possibility of a minority share investment but they haven't had talks with anyone about it yet.
 
DirtyFrank said:
Last official thing they said was on Friday. Stating categorically they are not selling and do not want to sell the club.

They are open to the possibility of a minority share investment but they haven't had talks with anyone about it yet.
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Exactly. And the net effect will be: nothing. Selling off minority shares only makes a difference to the businessmen.
 
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They've been more interested in fattening up the commercial side of the club than going all out for success on the pitch.
If they are serious about remaining at the club and standing by their word not to sell they had better change their strategy pronto, its an era of spending what it takes to have any possible success and we're getting left behind because of stringent policies on buying young and paying average wages compared to other clubs we aspire to.
 
Milk - Hanfield dynasty said:
If they buy a minority stake it will be as uneventful as LeBron James buying a sliver of Liverpool. We won't see any change. I've not seen an article yet where FSG have said they want to sell it all.


If they do buy the club that is no guarantee they will splash money around like Gerrez at an a la carte restaurant.
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A minority stake without a board seat means exactly this.

Usmanov owns 30% of Arsenal and still hasn't got a board seat, and is therefore completely inert
 
Tobes said:
A minority stake without a board seat means exactly this.

Usmanov owns 30% of Arsenal and still hasn't got a board seat, and is therefore completely inert
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FSG see it as a boost to the revenue as a market to be tapped. there is very little in it for the chinese really if they buy in like this. If china wants to push the arabs dominance out and say china is the premiere football brand owners then they have to buy SOMEONE outright.

so....

IF the plan is to buy LFC then they need to bid. I see no reason to buy up clubs across europe then part buy LFC when they can go knock on gold and sullivna's spiv doors and get a club for a 10th the price... with a bigger stadium... and are in london.... like... come on!

I cannot see a major chinese investment company run by the state buying a 10% stake... why would they..what does it get them?
 
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Page_Moss_Kopite said:
They've been more interested in fattening up the commercial side of the club than going all out for success on the pitch.
If they are serious about remaining at the club and standing by their word not to sell they had better change their strategy pronto, its an era of spending what it takes to have any possible success and we're getting left behind because of stringent policies on buying young and paying average wages compared to other clubs we aspire to.
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Hiya mate. long time no see.

FSG must have a long term plan and an exit strategy. This Chinese malarkey could be part of gently introducing it - take on a minority shareholder which will gradually increase to a majority - or why has this consortium [or whatever they are] picked us out in particular to buy into? FSG have shown they know how to run a football club as a profit making business, what they haven't been able to do is replicate that success on the field. As long as they are making money, do they care enough to change transfer policy, for example. They aren't football fans and have no 'real' interest in LFC so selling up is on the cards at some point maybe once the new stand's done and finances are in even better shape ??
 
johnsonsbaby said:
Hiya mate. long time no see.

FSG must have a long term plan and an exit strategy. This Chinese malarkey could be part of gently introducing it - take on a minority shareholder which will gradually increase to a majority - or why has this consortium [or whatever they are] picked us out in particular to buy into? FSG have shown they know how to run a football club as a profit making business, what they haven't been able to do is replicate that success on the field. As long as they are making money, do they care enough to change transfer policy, for example. They aren't football fans and have no 'real' interest in LFC so selling up is on the cards at some point maybe once the new stand's done and finances are in even better shape ??
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Hello jb mate.<ok>

Totally agree with your post.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
Hiya mate. long time no see.

FSG must have a long term plan and an exit strategy. This Chinese malarkey could be part of gently introducing it - take on a minority shareholder which will gradually increase to a majority - or why has this consortium [or whatever they are] picked us out in particular to buy into? FSG have shown they know how to run a football club as a profit making business, what they haven't been able to do is replicate that success on the field. As long as they are making money, do they care enough to change transfer policy, for example. They aren't football fans and have no 'real' interest in LFC so selling up is on the cards at some point maybe once the new stand's done and finances are in even better shape ??
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I can only see FSG selling the club. What have the chinese to gain by having a minority shareholding of a few hundred millions? absolutely peanuts for an investment organisation worth hundreds of billions. The objective must be full ownership.

FSG must have come to the conclusion that with the current market in the premiership and the way it is going, even hundred of millions of further investment in new players may not bring more trophies and more importantly no more revenue. Same in marketing and sponsorships as in football, first is first, second or third are nowhere.

The chinese taking over will mean LFC will become the most supported club in China, with its huge market for shirts and sponsorships. LFC will be catapulted into the Real, United and Barcelonas of this world and competing for the most expensive players. The battles will not only be on the football pitches but in the finance arenas. And I am not joking.

LFC is only second to Man United as the most supported team in China.
 
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I think thats a good point.

Eventually FSG would be quite happy with say a 20% stake and access to the markets.... after all REALLY they aint in it for any moeny they get through lfc its the market access and tv netwrok i nthe us they care about.

IF the chinese want 80% and finance a slush fund.... if they can keep the access that really opens it up to them..
 
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So who are the best. XI Chinese players at LFC over the years?

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