Chat GPT and other AI bots

[Stockholm Tiger]

Hmm
And who, societally, is picking up the pieces of that job loss?
It should be the person who is making the most money from your company, but I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest that’s happening?

To be honest Den my reply was tongue in cheek although genuine as it happens.

However, I am also, genuinely, looking for an additional inside sales person to deal with the additional leads a more streamlined marketing process has produced. It's actually a better paid job in this very specific case.

I think long term AI won't replace jobs for humans but it will probably change the types of jobs people do.

For instance I strongly believe there is a big shake up coming for Coders, which could be very painful for people in those jobs short term.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

"Summarize the content on NOT 606 transfer thread (link) and who thinks what in general"



Obvious that it took a liking to you Stockholm Tiger

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Hasnt put FACT so obvs full of ****

 

[balkan tiger]

The film terminator may have been Sci fi back then. Now?

Time to start preparing.

EDIT to put this (was supposed to be a helmet emoji thing) but it's not there.???? I think they are on to us already.

 

[dennisboothstash]

To be honest Den my reply was tongue in cheek although genuine as it happens.

However, I am also, genuinely, looking for an additional inside sales person to deal with the additional leads a more streamlined marketing process has produced. It's actually a better paid job in this very specific case.

I think long term AI won't replace jobs for humans but it will probably change the types of jobs people do.

For instance I strongly believe there is a big shake up coming for Coders, which could be very painful for people in those jobs short term.

I struggle to see how it won’t reduce the amount of jobs, not your ones necessarily, but some data heavy ones, and probably some artistic design ones too.

I see the Lords refused to pass the AI law unless it covers openness about whose work they used, so use of copyrighted material could be paid for. Seems reasonable to me.
I mean Nick Clegg saying that if that happens AI will be unable to continue (in UK at least) shows it is corrupt.
I’m sure they wouldn’t have all their data and algorithms available to be used by competitors would they?!

 

[balkan tiger]

"Summarize the content on NOT 606 transfer thread (link) and who thinks what in general"



Obvious that it took a liking to you Stockholm Tiger

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How will AI be paying for the posters information they are using?

 

[DMD]

I struggle to see how it won’t reduce the amount of jobs, not your ones necessarily, but some data heavy ones, and probably some artistic design ones too.

I see the Lords refused to pass the AI law unless it covers openness about whose work they used, so use of copyrighted material could be paid for. Seems reasonable to me.
I mean Nick Clegg saying that if that happens AI will be unable to continue (in UK at least) shows it is corrupt.
I’m sure they wouldn’t have all their data and algorithms available to be used by competitors would they?!

I know someone that has produced a music track using AI.

There was obviously more to it than this, but the abridged version is that to get around copyright, they sampled an original song and got AI to replicate the voice, and then used that AI version in their release.
They argue that copywrite no longer applies in that case.

 

[dennisboothstash]

I know someone that has produced a music track using AI.

There was obviously more to it than this, but the abridged version is that to get around copyright, they sampled an original song and got AI to replicate the voice, and then used that AI version in their release.
They argue that copywrite no longer applies in that case.

Aye
That’s what they’re trying to confirm in terms of legal cases going forward

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

It won’t be able to better my MDT’s
Factofuckingmundo

 

[Febbos]

Haha, 'tends to express broader societal frustration'. It's not wrong.

Interesting also that it seems to be looking at other threads on the forum to make some of those judgements aside from the one you asked it to use.

I think it took some inspiiration from me first mentioning this thread, but it does sound like it had a peak in others

Found this one amusing as well

"Contributing to the forums positive atmosphere", clearly not based on last season

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[originallambrettaman]

I know someone that has produced a music track using AI.

There was obviously more to it than this, but the abridged version is that to get around copyright, they sampled an original song and got AI to replicate the voice, and then used that AI version in their release.
They argue that copywrite no longer applies in that case.

If you exactly copy an artist, using AI to replicate their voice on their song, it would still constitute copyright infringement. If you replicate the sound of a vocal using AI, but on a different song, it gets far more complicated. There's a lot of concern about this with animated films at the moment, as they can theoretically have the voice of a star in a film, without that star actually having anything to do with it.

Conversely, if you create a piece of music entirely using AI, it's not possible to copyright it, as copyright requires it to be created by a human.

 

[DMD]

If you exactly copy an artist, using AI to replicate their voice on their song, it would still constitute copyright infringement. If you replicate the sound of a vocal using AI, but on a different song, it gets far more complicated. There's a lot of concern about this with animated films at the moment, as they can theoretically have the voice of a star in a film, without that star actually having anything to do with it.

Conversely, if you create a piece of music entirely using AI, it's not possible to copyright it, as copyright requires it to be created by a human.

Your last line cannot be correct, or instrumentals and techno mixes would fall within that definition, which they don't.

Nothing can be 'entirely' by AI as it still needs a human to input at various stages, even if it's only to set the initial task in motion.

The people I referred to looked into these things, and I asked that very question. I don't claim to know the answer, nor if there's was right, but it's certainly something they'd looked deeply in to.

 

[DMD]

I think it took some inspiiration from me first mentioning this thread, but it does sound like it had a peak in others

Found this one amusing as well

"Contributing to the forums positive atmosphere", clearly not based on last season

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Test how intelligent it is by asking a variety of questions about the forum to see if it says: Febbos, keeps pestering me.

 

[Febbos]

Test how intelligent it is by asking a variety of questions about the forum to see if it says: Febbos, keeps pestering me.

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[originallambrettaman]

Your last line cannot be correct, or instrumentals and techno mixes would fall within that definition, which they don't.

Nothing can be 'entirely' by AI as it still needs a human to input at various stages, even if it's only to set the initial task in motion.

The people I referred to looked into these things, and I asked that very question. I don't claim to know the answer, nor if there's was right, but it's certainly something they'd looked deeply in to.

Instrumentals still have someone playing the instruments, techno mixes are generally mixed by a human, it's entirely machine generated content that's difficult to protect. As AI says...

• AI-generated music itself:
  Copyright law generally states that AI-generated content cannot be copyrighted because it's not created by a human.
• Human input matters:
  If a human adds substantial creative elements to the AI-generated content, such as adding lyrics or rearranging the music, then the final work might be copyrightable under the human's efforts.

 

[DMD]

Instrumentals still have someone playing the instruments, techno mixes are generally mixed by a human, it's entirely machine generated content that's difficult to protect. As AI says...

• AI-generated music itself:
  Copyright law generally states that AI-generated content cannot be copyrighted because it's not created by a human.
• Human input matters:
  If a human adds substantial creative elements to the AI-generated content, such as adding lyrics or rearranging the music, then the final work might be copyrightable under the human's efforts.

So pretty much as I said then.

 

[Gone For A Walk]

Think some are underestimating the impact AI will have on jobs... and life generally.

The impact is going to be absolutely massive. Talk of it being the next revolution underestimates the coming impact. The impact / change is going to be something way, way beyond what the industrial revolution, mass production , the IT and telecomms revolution, etc brought. It is a change that will be way more fundamental and far reaching.

AI means 'robots' way more intelligent than humans, capable of learning and decision making without emotion, ethics, etc where the intelligence & speed of advancement gets ever exponentially quicker. It will impact not just 'data heavy' roles, but also manual jobs (AI in relation to robotics); it's already happening.

It will be a power for good (things like solving the cause & cure of health issues that humans can't currently solve) and a potential power for unthinkable evil. The genie is out of the bottle and there's no going back. The UK needs to be at the forefront ... but I don't see how we can be as we no longer have the money or resources needed, and we tie ourselves up in bureaucracy, debate, political posturing and short term thinking (in other words, we're pretty much ****ed).

It's hard to envisage what it really means for global economics, personal finance, world order, humanity, lifestyle, jobs, etc etc. But for sure the World will look massively different in even just 10 years time; the Mail article I mentioned, which was very superficial, was talking about massive change even in a couple of years, 2030 at the latest. And as said, China is leading the way, by a distance.

I just hope the 'brains team' are onto it?

 

[DMD]

Think some are underestimating the impact AI will have on jobs... and life generally.

The impact is going to be absolutely massive. Talk of it being the next revolution underestimates the coming impact. The impact / change is going to be something way, way beyond what the industrial revolution, mass production , the IT and telecomms revolution, etc brought. It is a change that will be way more fundamental and far reaching.

AI means 'robots' way more intelligent than humans, capable of learning and decision making without emotion, ethics, etc where the intelligence & speed of advancement gets ever exponentially quicker. It will impact not just 'data heavy' roles, but also manual jobs (AI in relation to robotics); it's already happening.

It will be a power for good (things like solving the cause & cure of health issues that humans can't currently solve) and a potential power for unthinkable evil. The genie is out of the bottle and there's no going back. The UK needs to be at the forefront ... but I don't see how we can be as we no longer have the money or resources needed, and we tie ourselves up in bureaucracy, debate, political posturing and short term thinking (in other words, we're pretty much ****ed).

It's hard to envisage what it really means for global economics, personal finance, world order, humanity, lifestyle, jobs, etc etc. But for sure the World will look massively different in even just 10 years time; the Mail article I mentioned, which was very superficial, was talking about massive change even in a couple of years, 2030 at the latest. And as said, China is leading the way, by a distance.

I just hope the 'brains team' are onto it?

VAR.

Research and experience has shown that at present, with only a few glitches in the algorithm, AI will mistake a tortoise for a gun, or a bike for a guacamole. Traffic counting packages have buses on footways, and vehicle diversions through streets that don't exist.

 

[DMD]

Talking of AI and it's powerful uses.

Cats will become extinct.

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[DMD]

If an AI bot creates slanderous content, who would be liable?

 

[Plum]

Taste of things to come maybe? More dosh to the lawyers?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4q7984nq1o