Off Topic Change Of Career

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originallambrettaman said:
Strikes me some of you lads need to find a safer occupation, maybe something like bomb disposal...
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I know what you mean, but sometimes you just end up where you didn't aim for, just through necessity.

But at that point it becomes very difficult. Confidence dwindles. Barriers appear, hurdles to jump.

Sometimes they're your own, sometimes they're other people, or just circumstances.

They say everyone's accountable for themselves and that's true I think.

But does everyone get a fair crack at the whip?
 
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originallambrettaman said:
Strikes me some of you lads need to find a safer occupation, maybe something like bomb disposal...
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I worked with 2 33 RE search and disposal teams for a few weeks in NI in a support role. The team was very tight knit and I was an outsider. My work meant I only did a few weeks at a time with units and then I was put on another support role. The first lot found stuff and stopped it going bang, the second blew roads on the border up. Not for me that stuff.
 
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Posintilclosin said:
I speak from experience. I was a trouble shooter for a certain industry. I have been attacked countless times and mostly with weapons inc bottles glasses machetes golf clubs and dogs. Had a car come through the front door and been followed home more times than I can remember. Had my front door kicked down and home attacked. I have been CS gassed three times. This isn’t counting the amount of times I have had to go down the route of fighting people. Still nothing compared to TOM. The difference tho was mine was more personal against me for the job I was doing rather than a uniform. I also completely get the presence and body language point. It is so effective. As much as I have mentioned above, there are countless times me being me has been enough for it to escalate only slightly and manageable. At the time it was worth it as I was paid a kings ransom and the perks of the job were excellent. As bad as it could be, most of the time it was brilliant and worth it. As I aged I became more in kinder to do other things. The money and perks became less attractive but the downside increased. The balanced had swung too far to the negative. The reason for this is what Casual is describing. His balance and risk to reward sounds as if it’s not correct. Unless his reward is deeply emotional rather than rational or money/life balance then I stand by what I say. If he can tolerate the negative and feels happy to continue then good luck. But you are working with someone who makes threats. Unlike TOM, some people who made threats to me did come back and tried to carry out what they threatened. You never know with someone who isn’t always in control. Interesting story TOM
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You should write a book mate!! I would love to hear some of these stories... it’s ****ing fascinating for someone in a boring job like mine lol
 
The Omega Man said:
I worked with 2 33 RE search and disposal teams for a few weeks in NI in a support role. The team was very tight knit and I was an outsider. My work meant I only did a few weeks at a time with units and then I was put on another support role. The first lot found stuff and stopped it going bang, the second blew roads on the border up. Not for me that stuff.
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Sounds like my mate, but he fitted gas cookers.
 
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TheCasual said:
I've got a interview for assistant managers job for the company I currently work for.

I've no experience in management.
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Neither have many people who apply for and get manager / leadership roles!

What frustrated me so much when interviewing candidates for next roles was their answers when asking questions like "what have you been doing to prepare yourself for this role", "how have you been developing yourself", "what have you been studying / learning / reading in the last year or so"? So many times the answer is NOTHING, once you put the BS excuses aside ("oh, i've been meaning to xxx", "oh I'm interested in studying x but I've been busy", blah blah blah). There really is no excuse nowadays, with learning / reading / watching being so readily accessible and often times free.

If you are specifically interested in people management / leadership, 2 quick tips (as well of course as being as good as you can in your current job and having a great attitude). Go on to ACAS website and take some of their free short bite-sized courses (free and short). And look into Blanchard's Situational Leadership (you tube, on line articles, the really short book Leadership & the One Minute Manager - will cost you no more than £6.99!!). Key lesson, it isn't about YOUR leadership style, it's about what leadership style you need to adopt for the specific person and the specific task they need to do. Follow these tips and you'll likely be ahead of the vast majority in my experience.

As Jim Rohn said "work harder on yourself than you do on your job; work hard on your job and you'll make a living, work hard on yourself and you'll make a fortune". I never got to the (real) fortune stage but I did pretty darn well from nothing.

Maybe you are doing all the above and I've wasted my time ... hopefully. Good luck.
 
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Good luck @TheCasual
I think it’s never bad to get an interview, even if you’re not sure if you want the job. It’s a two way process so even if offered it you don’t have to accept. If you remember that you can go in relaxed and simply try to come across as well as you can while being yourself.
Either way going in prepared is good as it might help you be successful and will definitely help you be more relaxed on the day.
Depends on the business, but I’d be looking for someone who will support the people you’re supervising to work as efficiently as they can, treat people fairly (because it’s the right thing to do and because it saves the business a fortune in employment tribunals!) so having some thoughts about equality and diversity always helps.
If you’re aware of your leadership style, or have given thought to how you would want to lead that’s good. Personally I like people who are self aware and recognise they have a lot to learn, much better than someone who thinks they’re perfect…because no one is.
Some good advice above on things to read too.
Stick any questions on here because there’s a lot of experience on here all together
 
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You're obviously working with very troubled 'service users.
You haven't been in that work for long, so well done for getting to this stage.
A lot of very good advice/support above.
I suspect it is a small organisation you work for? Often they do take shortcuts with training and sometimes put profit well before staff wellbeing etc. Always be aware of that. Your previous comment about 'finding threats hilarious' reminded me of how back in the day we would talk like that to colleagues, family, friends. Almost in a macho way of showing you're coping. It is a form of office banter, but not appropriate. I'd like to think Managers/ interviewers are wanting to know that you were thinking about how he was feeling when he was making threats. Not easy, but no one should have suggested the job would be easy.
Clearly your Assistant Manager role is about caring for the carers, who from your previous posts I suspect they have very little experience? Therefore what is the commitment to staff training/ support/safety etc? Make sure the AM post is not just about squeezing as much as they can out of you.

I suspect this could be working with young people? If so private message me.
 
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Just a quick question. Has anyone applied for a job through Facebook?
I get notifications daily & occasionally something appeals to me, I don’t normally “apply”, click the link, but the other day I did, today I checked my junk email & I find a reply, it says:”I’ve checked your CV,” so this went straight in the bin as I don’t have one, I keep meaning to do one, so I assume it’s just the jobs I’ve had that it says on FB, that they’re referring to as my CV.
So I carried on reading anyway, & further down it says, they need to do the checks, which will cost £150. To me, no way in hell would I follow on with that, but for people who are desperate, they might go through with it.
So it got me wondering if some of the jobs on there were scams?
 
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Brucebones said:
Just a quick question. Has anyone applied for a job through Facebook?
I get notifications daily & occasionally something appeals to me, I don’t normally “apply”, click the link, but the other day I did, today I checked my junk email & I find a reply, it says:”I’ve checked your CV,” so this went straight in the bin as I don’t have one, I keep meaning to do one, so I assume it’s just the jobs I’ve had that it says on FB, that they’re referring to as my CV.
So I carried on reading anyway, & further down it says, they need to do the checks, which will cost £150. To me, no way in hell would I follow on with that, but for people who are desperate, they might go through with it.
So it got me wondering if some of the jobs on there were scams?
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I thought the Facebook for jobs was LinkedIn. The algorithms on FB have never shown me a job advert and I've never had an invite to apply - mind you my security is fairly well battened down to friends only, and I only add people I actually know in real life. I'd immediately conclude it was a scam.

Given the ****e that people post using their personal Facebook accounts then you'd have to be a total idiot to use it to apply for a job, but then there's a lot of idiots out there.
 
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brownbagtiger said:
I thought the Facebook for jobs was LinkedIn. The algorithms on FB have never shown me a job advert and I've never had an invite to apply - mind you my security is fairly well battened down to friends only, and I only add people I actually know in real life. I'd immediately conclude it was a scam.

Given the ****e that people post using their personal Facebook accounts then you'd have to be a total idiot to use it to apply for a job, but then there's a lot of idiots out there.
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My daughter got her dream job from LinkedIn (well, I'm sure she'd rather be a millionaire 'internet influencer' but hey ho), started today. An independent recruitment consultant found her CV on it and matched her with a client. I was never convinced by LinkedIn but it shows what I know... :emoticon-0101-sadsm
 
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Facebook have a fairly new 'Business Suite', making it unnecessarily complicated for businesses to manage their pages and one of the functions on there is a new 'advertise a job' section, though there's no charge for it, so any asking for a fee may well have been a scam.

You used to be able to manage several business pages separately, but now there's a single Business Suite that manages all the pages owned by one business. Which is fine in theory, but it doesn't seem to work, it never seems to understand what you want to do on which page and half the stuff it's supposed to do doesn't work (at least I can't get them to work).
 
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Plum said:
My daughter got her dream job from LinkedIn (well, I'm sure she'd rather be a millionaire 'internet influencer' but hey ho), started today. An independent recruitment consultant found her CV on it and matched her with a client. I was never convinced by LinkedIn but it shows what I know... :emoticon-0101-sadsm
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I know people who have worked in high paid jobs for years who have only ever been contracted through Linked in
 
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