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Don't think I've noticed anything from Redruth this morning JWM.

I hope he does return to this forum as it will definately be a poorer place without him! Whether he was right or not to vent his spleen in the way that he did surely we all have a democratic right to say what we think?
 
[/QUOTE]i don't know i'm afraid. i'm going by what was said on the bbc breakfast news this morning. having worked in that area before it is a highly congested area but the response time is not good. this may have been an attack on a sole person but it doesn't bare thinking about the potential for murder on a mass scale[/QUOTE]

This won't go down well with some groups of people, but I believe all Police should be armed in this country.

They need to seriously reconsider their recruitment strategy too, as I don't think a lot of officers have sufficient fitness standards or have the awareness.
 
Having seen how this thread has developed CT, I wonder if you stand by your reply to my original post. The ignore button is NOT the answer. The issue is not whether one is interested in the topic of a thread or not; it is the potential for damage to our forum "family" (your term). We come from all walks of life, and one would hope we have contributors of all colours, races, and creeds, political persuasions, and so on; we are united by a common interest in football and NCFC in particular. We enjoy our discussions, and the banter between us. And we try to respect each others opinions and discuss what is said, not who is saying it (even then, from time to time, we don't always succeed when the topic is the relatively trivial one of football). If people regard this forum as a place to air their views about anything and everything, however important it is and however controversial their views on it may be, it will soon impossible to focus on the post irrespective of the poster, whatever the topic. <ok>

Yes,I understand what you are saying on this.I wasn't however the one asking for reprisals against muslims.To put the record straight I was a Labour councillor for fourteen years (JWM foams at mouth!) so I don't have a record of racism.When i go abroad I enjoy the company of foreigners,am interested in their culture and customs and I am generally a pro-European (JWM goes into apoplexy) However,I do stop short of being a tree hugger and live in the real world.

It is my considered opinion that a significant minority of the followers of Islam have rather more than the praise of Allah on their agendas.It is only a minority but it seems that the more sensible ones have their work cut out controlling these firebrands.Our leades furthermore seemed frightened to do anything to help this situation.
 
you don't have to care what i write.

however, i care that some individuals such as yourself are coming across extremely badly by writing things that aren't true about other posters.

i doubt you will find a single person on this forum that doesn't condemn the attack yesterday but in many ways, some of the things i've seen posted on here in the last 24 hours are singing from the same hymn sheet as those who committed the attacks in woolwich – you as much as anyone.

You are also writing things about me that are not true! But in your supreme eyes that's Ok, only your view point counts!
I think you need to retract that last statement, your saying that I condone what happened!
You really are an arrogant idiot of the highest order!
I have family fighting in Afganistan, every day I fear for their lives, and you come out with that sort of ****e. I had little respect for you before because of your bullying ways, but now.... I'm absolutley astounded! I hope your proud of you're self?????
 
You are also writing things about me that are not true! But in your supreme eyes that's Ok, only your view point counts!
I think you need to retract that last statement, your saying that I condone what happened!
You really are an arrogant idiot of the highest order!
I have family fighting in Afganistan, every day I fear for their lives, and you come out with that sort of ****e. I had little respect for you before because of your bullying ways, but now.... I'm absolutley astounded! I hope your proud of you're self?????

you are tarring EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM with the same brush.

i don't believe you condone the attack; i don't believe anyone on here does; but by saying the things you have done, you are expressing feelings similar to those expressed by these nutjobs, just from an opposing side.

if you think i'm arrogant then fine, that's up to you, i'm hardly going to be crying myself to sleep because you have a personal vendetta against me, but i too have a family member who fought for our country, albeit in the gulf war, so how come i am able to separate one or two nutjobs from a whole group of people, unlike you?
 
Yes,I understand what you are saying on this.I wasn't however the one asking for reprisals against muslims.To put the record straight I was a Labour councillor for fourteen years (JWM foams at mouth!) so I don't have a record of racism.When i go abroad I enjoy the company of foreigners,am interested in their culture and customs and I am generally a pro-European (JWM goes into apoplexy) However,I do stop short of being a tree hugger and live in the real world.

It is my considered opinion that a significant minority of the followers of Islam have rather more than the praise of Allah on their agendas.It is only a minority but it seems that the more sensible ones have their work cut out controlling these firebrands.Our leades furthermore seemed frightened to do anything to help this situation.

Good Post CT but just to correct you in as much as just because I am a right wing Tory, it doesn't mean that I don't enjoy the company of foreigners! I am the European sales director for a global publishing company and most of my clients are from all parts of Europe and the Middle Eastern countries which I frequently go and visit. I just think that we shouldn't be governed by Europe and that we should be free as a sovereign country to make our own laws, be able to control our own borders, deport those that shouldn't be here but we should co-operate on a number of issues such as the Environment, Trade and Terrorism with our European partners if we so chose! There is nothing Xenophobic about that and I deplore those who like to label people of my political views as being so! <ok>
 
you are tarring EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM with the same brush.

i don't believe you condone the attack; i don't believe anyone on here does; but by saying the things you have done, you are expressing feelings similar to those expressed by these nutjobs, just from an opposing side.

if you think i'm arrogant then fine, that's up to you, i'm hardly going to be crying myself to sleep because you have a personal vendetta against me, but i too have a family member who fought for our country, albeit in the gulf war, so how come i am able to separate one or two nutjobs from a whole group of people, unlike you?

You just aren't worth the bother pal, so far up your own arse it's incredible!
You can't argue you just insult.
I'm gone from here, as you've come back and contaminated a perfectly acceptable forum. I guess that makes you happy?
 
You just aren't worth the bother pal, so far up your own arse it's incredible!
You can't argue you just insult.
I'm gone from here, as you've come back and contaminated a perfectly acceptable forum. I guess that makes you happy?

fine. well good luck on your EDL rallies...

i'm sure you'll fit in well <ok>


ps. the personal insults seem to be coming from you.
 
On a separate point.Plaudits to all contributors for not letting this thread get out of hand.I was probably a little naughty in starting it immediately after the Redruth one got locked.There are clear differences of opinion still but it has generally been kept at a good natured discussion level.Sorry JWM if you thought that I characterised you as a knuckle-dragger.
 
On a separate point.Plaudits to all contributors for not letting this thread get out of hand.I was probably a little naughty in starting it immediately after the Redruth one got locked.There are clear differences of opinion still but it has generally been kept at a good natured discussion level.Sorry JWM if you thought that I characterised you as a knuckle-dragger.

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As you mentioned in a previous post, we have both had a right old ding-dong on the Maggie Thatcher thread. I like to think that we have a certain amount of mutual respect for each other's opinions even if we think that each other's are completely wrong!
 
Well that seems like that's two members lost over this fiasco, anyone else planning on joining them? Maybe letting this debate continue wasn't the smartest of ideas.
 
Well that seems like that's two members lost over this fiasco, anyone else planning on joining them? Maybe letting this debate continue wasn't the smartest of ideas.

It's a tough task you mods have got at the moment DH. I would say you've handled things appropriately so far though.