Catch 22
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We are clearly separated by a common language.
Reboot, new season, start again.
You're a ST holder? Bloody hell, didn't know that mate.
In that case you've every right to gripe and complain and to tell folk like me not forking out all that money to sling our hooks!
Maximum respect to all you fellas
I'm getting an ST again next season, will you respect me too? Go on, you know you want to.
No, only those that stuck with the Club in the Championsh*t. Not glory hunters
Damn, rumbled. Those 42 years of hurt count for nowt.
I won't be getting a ST until we play QPR football again plus I have a lot on next year but I hope to make as many matches as i can
Very important to me the football ... otherwise we should just watch Champions league or MOTD ... QPR i hope realise that we have a great heritage of passing quick football, solid team structure and a very special number 10
Results first, the rest can come at a later date my man. Last season being a perfect example. If we had some of the "QPR way" rabble in charge, we'd still be down there, looking pretty but still losers.
Start at the back and make yourself solid. Build a team of grafters who'll give their all in each and every game. Once its all solidified, in a couple of years you can start adding some flair. But not until then.
I'm not sure if we'd have been more successful in the last 20 or 30 years if we'd been more pragmatic and focused on winning rather than style, Stan, but I do know its sheer efficiency that makes small Clubs successful on the field itself. Not misty eyed romanticism about gallant attacking play and reckless flamboyance.
Oddball is a top bloke but the fact that he liked Sparkless and dislikes Redknapp says all you need to know about that post he put up above.
Start at the back and make yourself solid. Build a team of grafters who'll give their all in each and every game. Once its all solidified, in a couple of years you can start adding some flair. But not until then.
I'm not sure if we'd have been more successful in the last 20 or 30 years if we'd been more pragmatic and focused on winning rather than style, Stan, but I do know its sheer efficiency that makes small Clubs successful on the field itself. Not misty eyed romanticism about gallant attacking play and reckless flamboyance.
Oddball is a top bloke but the fact that he liked Sparkless and dislikes Redknapp says all you need to know about that post he put up above.
And I thought the Irish were the romantics and we English were the dour pragmatists. I know what you are saying, but when you get to my age (and DTs) you begin to feel that you can't hang around waiting for that much longer.
If we can't have the flamboyance then I'm totally with you let's have the 100% triers instead, at least they give you something to support.
If we can't have the flamboyance then I'm totally with you let's have the 100% triers instead, at least they give you something to support.
And we search for crocks of gold at the end of rainbows and you Morris dance around May poles of an evening.... 
I agree with what you're saying mate. Its not too much to ask to have both is it?
I agree with what you're saying mate. Its not too much to ask to have both is it?
And we search for crocks of gold at the end of rainbows and you Morris dance around May poles of an evening....
I agree with what you're saying mate. Its not too much to ask to have both is it?
Let me help you understand this "QPR way' stuff which so exercises you. Objectively you are right, its a crock of ****, for most of our history we have been deeply average, nothing unusual or exciting about us at all, except constant flirting with catastrophe on and off the pitch. But a lot of us on here spent their formative years watching something different. When I first went to QPR, aged 11 in 1972, and for about 4-5 years after that, we we genuinely brilliant to watch a lot of the time. We played football in a new (for England) and exciting way. For me that has become what football is, or should be, because that is what I first knew. Everything else is second best.
So, sorry, its a generational thing that many will struggle to understand. Genuine apologies for that - it was easy being a QPR supporter in those days because you knew you were going to have fun. I have huge respect for those who started following the club later, especially after 96. But nothing will stop me wanting 'total football' - as DT says fast passing with at least one special player, preferably in the number 10 shirt. Its what I grew up with.
Extremely well put. I knew the reason already to be honest but its good to have it confirmed by one of the group I've disparaged.
I started following the team around 1990 and to be fair, we played good football then too. I fell for our "football" style also. The old man followed them in the 60's and they played it on the floor then as well.
I just believe that it must be done the right way around. We've had 20 years of sh*t, most of it scrapping at the foot of the Championship. That's enough of that. Now we have an opportunity to become a Premier League mainstay and I totally support the tried and tested ways of Redknapp at this moment in time. Lets establish ourselves over the next 2-3 years and then we can develop into something attractive and even majestic. I know its asking a lot of a fan like you who's been starved so long of what you initially fell in love with but give it another couple of years and hopefully we'll have everything.
For the time being though, lets walk before we try to run.
I started following the team around 1990 and to be fair, we played good football then too. I fell for our "football" style also. The old man followed them in the 60's and they played it on the floor then as well.
I just believe that it must be done the right way around. We've had 20 years of sh*t, most of it scrapping at the foot of the Championship. That's enough of that. Now we have an opportunity to become a Premier League mainstay and I totally support the tried and tested ways of Redknapp at this moment in time. Lets establish ourselves over the next 2-3 years and then we can develop into something attractive and even majestic. I know its asking a lot of a fan like you who's been starved so long of what you initially fell in love with but give it another couple of years and hopefully we'll have everything.
For the time being though, lets walk before we try to run.
Hahaha...Rufus Brevett who jumped ship first chance he got to go play for Foolham...
Will he be sayimg the same if they get promoted?
Where is he now then? How many programms are clamouring for his intellect when it comes to a footy match to seek him out as a pundit...?
No one. He was an average "joe" at the game with the rest of us. I have a facebook pic of him taken in the crowd with a mate of mine from Sydney (via Eastcote).
PD, at least you found someone to agree with you..just a shame it was Rufus
PS i really did like him as a player though
Will he be sayimg the same if they get promoted?
Where is he now then? How many programms are clamouring for his intellect when it comes to a footy match to seek him out as a pundit...?
No one. He was an average "joe" at the game with the rest of us. I have a facebook pic of him taken in the crowd with a mate of mine from Sydney (via Eastcote).
PD, at least you found someone to agree with you..just a shame it was Rufus
PS i really did like him as a player though
I really liked Brevett too. And Sinclair. (Maybe it was their dreads?)
But who exactly does Rufus manage and what success has he had? Did someone say we're playing his team in preseason? What are they, a Conference side?
But who exactly does Rufus manage and what success has he had? Did someone say we're playing his team in preseason? What are they, a Conference side?
Well said, Stan. That team, as well as the one Venables assembled, but especially that team, played the way I want to see QPR play.
Your usual confrontational nonsense Queens.
Catch 22 is a very good description of what lies ahead imo.
Exactly, those of us of a certain age want our team to play in a way that is entertaining as well as getting results, the 2 are not mutually exclusive......