Bristol arena

coming in from wells rd end they likely would ... its all to do with a quick escape after!

 

****in bang on! Arcadia Bristol attracted 13000 visitors last summer. Bristol never collapsed did it.

Stop making excuses, there has been ample time to discuss this.

Get on with the build. lets get Bristol starting to catch up with the rest.

 

This council have rolled out resident parking schemes all across this City, sometimes without necessity. Why can't they just introduce one through Totterdown and include event times.

Where theres a will..

 

I'm having the last word

****ing build it you twats

 

Like everyone else I want an Arena for Bristol. Cutting through the crap is the difficult bit. It is no good saying just do it as you have to understand the process. JGF blames the Council for wasting money but what actual proof does he have of incompetence other than his personal perception. Waste is everywhere and hindsight is a wonderful thing. I recall speaking to a Council officer a few years ago and he said that they were still paying of the loan for building Hartcliffe so god knows what it is like trying to set and control Council budgets . If you studied the MOD you would see real waste. The facts are that the most successful businesses spend 80% on planning and 20% on deployment but that is not the British way (we are 20/80) and that's why we don't make things any more. The truth is that none of us know the whole story here and can only speculate. I have simply tried to comment on things as I see them. I find the comment about making Totterdown an RPZ and including event times ironic as that is precisely the problem in Bedminster and Southville. The moral of the story is as it has always been , never argue about religion or politics.

 

Build the twatting thing

 

Exactly. Reason Ferguson got in is because of this type of political bullshit at the expense of the people of Bristol.

 

Process, process, bullshit, bollocks.. You don't seem to understand the vast majority just want the people in charge to get on with it. Focus groups, forums, public opinion all opportunities for busybodies to slow 'the process'.

**** the process, every other City in the country isn't held back 20 years by 'the process'.

 

The process here is politicians again wanting to put a spanner in the works to make the other side look bad who this time is Ferguson. That's their process. People are sick to death of this Bristol process.

 

Until the arena gets built, stick a stage in front the Williams, 11500 undercover job done.

 

Or in front of the Atyeo, even better 22k sorted.. but wait where will they all park?.. We will need countless council meetings and noise monitoring and the killjoy crew involved.. its all a process.

I despair.. I will be too old to go to a gig by the time they build it.. its the next generation that will need to change this 'cant do' attitude.

This sense of entitlement in todays society is to blame, everyone is having their rights infringed in some way every day, and they need some sort of compensation for it.

If removing Red Trousers means going back to this endless ****.. I'm changing my mind about him.

 

Bristol is no different than many other places. I suggest you ask Brighton and Swansea fans how long it took to build their stadiums. Then look at London with the Spurs and West Ham sagas. Chelsea have been trying to get a new site for years. While you may not agree with it getting major projects done is never straightforward. It wasn't so many years ago that Man U and City were planning to ground share but advanced plans were ditched. Planning laws change all the time and yes there are people who exploit it. Currently the emphasis is on house building. The Arena will get built.. Meanwhile a quick google will show you that Everton, Aberdeen, Basingstoke !! , Real Madrid and Napoli are all facing strong objections to proposed new stadia

 

Yeah this is by no means a Bristol-only thing. And it's people like us that would be the first to moan if an arena was built and it created 3 hours of jams from all directions, so of course there has to be process and feasibility studies, but it does feel like they are a bit excessive.

 

What has Ashton Vale have to do with the arena? Nothing. Ashton Vale was stopped due to Town green legislation. A commons act.

The arena is being delayed at great expense by councillors who are acting on behalf of their parties political interests.

 

Re Ashton Vale agree absolutely but that does not stop people blaming the Council and saying the decision was "typical Bristol". There are however common denominators eg car parking.
Re the arena please explain how a multi party committee delays something purely for "their parties political interests". What is the interest? It is Council policy to build the Arena so why delay it deliberately? If someone can convince me then fine I will agree but all I hear is "politically driven" and no evidence. I find it difficult to understand why people criticise the right of elected representatives to make decisions. It is called democracy, try living without it.

 

I think to sum it up perfectly, Some will say it needs to be excessive to make sure you get it right. Others will say it all a load of bullshit

 

This is typical Bristol.

Political parties in Bristol have refused to run the Council in the recent past. Political parties in Bristol have refused to work with the elected representative of Bristol. Both are facts.

That site has already had millions of pounds spent on it clearing the site and building an enormous bridge. That spending was authorised by elected representatives to make decisions, who are now choosing to stall the project unnecessarily.

It is IN the parties interests not the peoples of Bristol's to sabotage this project. This creates poor publicity for the Mayor leading up to an election. They do NOT want this project, which they themselves were thoroughly involved in running efficiently as it WILL portray a political foe in a good light.

 

So basically you are saying all parties are anti Mayor and will do to any lengths to discredit the present incumbent. So what is the alternative, the other candidate, who presumably must have his own detractors. The converse argument is that most people will share your view and that will only serve to enhance Ferguson's credibility. You have your opinion but I don't buy into all conspiracy theories. Meanwhile we are where we are

Incidentally just to prove the same concerns exist in Cardiff http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/concerns-plans-university-sports-hall-10263247