A few points to make on the game, and Arsenal-Stoke Relations in general
1) Although it was accidental, Shawcross' tackle on Ramsey was a culmination of the general rough'em up attitude of the Stoke team, I don't have a particular problem with a team using that tactic, but if it results in an injury, naturally the responsible party are more at fault than a team that doesn't use this approach - point in case, two tackles in that game, one on Cazorla and one on Vermaelen could have ended quite badly
2) Ramsey should have accepted Shawcross' apology if he indeed visited a hospital (although I guess it's his own decision), but tbf I'd be pretty peed off if I received an apology via text
3) I think Ramsey handled the Walesgate incident rather well, he basically said he didn't care, the manager of Wales is much more at fault here than anyone else
4) I thought the pitch today was a remarkable improvement on previous visits, I know its early season but I was happy with it
5) The people that booed Ramsey were Cnut's, there's no two ways about it
6) I do find the Wenger dance rather funny, but if you're completely honest, Pulis whines just as much as Wenger, it's just that he doesn't get stereotyped as the whinging type
7) Crouch is a good player and you should play more to his strengths, i think its a bit unfair to continually lump the ball up at him when he's good technically
8) I think we as Arsenal fans have a particular bee in our bonnet regarding broken legs, Sagna had his done twice, Ramsey, Diaby and Eduardo were on the bad end of some pretty nasty challenges
9) The blogs perpetuating the idea that you are all neanderthals doesn't really help you guys out, its a bit unfair to be honest
10) re point 9, it would help if you actually signed some attractive players though, honestly your lot must be one of the most minging teams around
Oh and Arsenal87 is a little child, so just ignore him and he'll go away
Theo, I have to agree with a lot of your pointsBut you must see that our fans who boo Ramsey are responding to the Arsenal fans who just won`t let go of this and keep booing Shawcross!! I don`t condone this but that`s life ,we all protect our own,(right or Wrong). We all know two wrongs don`t make a right and I`m sure 99% of Stoke fans wish the subject could be dropped forever.Do the clubs who se players`broke Sagna`s ,Diaby`s and Eduardo`s legs still get this vitriol that we get? Do you also honestly believe that Shawcrosses tackle was deliberately done to break Ramseys leg,in other words WAS IT AN ACCIDENT??? If not then we`ll never get past this point,and this discussion will go on forever,and I for one am sick to death of it. Your points on our style of play have some validityand if you stay tuned to our site you will see that a lot of our posters do not like our style. However NO_ONE including myself can deny that they have been successful so far! Most of us on here DO feel it`s time to move on a bit,so let`s wait and see eh?
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