Regardless of the reasons (and I think Arsenal, Wenger and Ramsey have all be spiteful over it) its distasteful IMO. To all the footballing world WE look likethe odiots that boo someone whos leg was broken by our own player.
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Regardless of the reasons (and I think Arsenal, Wenger and Ramsey have all be spiteful over it) its distasteful IMO. To all the footballing world WE look likethe odiots that boo someone whos leg was broken by our own player.
I'm sorry but Ryan sent Ramsey an apology by text: I would be quite insulted if I read an apology that took fewer than 150 characters while lying on a hospital bed, as far as I'm concerned, Ryan has not apologised.
Well I suppose that's a bit better than just sending a text but I don't think that either player acted admirably after the incident. And neither did either set of fans.
Ryan
As Smither's say's it's done now, you can not change what happened.
We CAN move on and Jeering Aaron Ramsey is dispicaple IMHO. I honestly did'nt hear it today but it's obvious that not only did Arsene hear it, a few Stoke fans did also. I love Stoke City as much as the rest on here, and I'm still of the oppinion that. It's totally stupid and shows a total lack of respect for a lad who had his leg broken.
Any Stoke fan who did jeer, they make me sick.
I tried to put my views across on the Arsenal board (when this happened) but sadly I got shot down.. so...
As I said before today's game. IF Arsenal fans can not get over it. It's their problem NOT OURS Ryan.
KTF
PS Ryan that was in no way having a personal dig a you!
Pott's
As Smither's say's it's done now, you can not change what happened.
We CAN move on and Jeering Aaron Ramsey is dispicaple IMHO. I honestly did'nt hear it today but it's obvious that not only did Arsene hear it, a few Stoke fans did also. I love Stoke City as much as the rest on here, and I'm still of the oppinion that. It's totally stupid and shows a total lack of respect for a lad who had his leg broken.
Any Stoke fan who did jeer, they make me sick.
I tried to put my views across on the Arsenal board (when this happened) but sadly I got shot down.. so...
As I said before today's game. IF Arsenal fans can not get over it. It's their problem NOT OURS Ryan.
KTF
PS Ryan that was in no way having a personal dig a you! Pott's
A **** for what? What happened was a complete fluke whilst playing a contact sport. Plenty of people have broken their legs/arms/ankles playing football, Ramsey wasn't the first and he won't be the last. Get the **** over it.
The irony of this post is that your team and fans burst into tears when Stoke, or frankly any team, dare do anything but stand off and admire your beautiful three yard sideways passes.
It was completely accidental. Unfortunately Ramsey's foot actually got trapped which caused the leg to break upon impact. 9/10 nothing would have happened but it was a combination of bad luck and bad timing, the tackle itself was not bad (unlike Martin Taylor v Eduardo). Shawcross broke down in tears on live TV and attempted to apologise. He was genuinely distraught about the incident and remorseful.
A better human being would have accepted the apology and moved on. That would have helped Ramsey and put Shawcross at ease, as well as calm down tension between both clubs but Ramsey decided to let the thing escalate and be a big girl about it.
Diaby kicked Terry In the face so hard he almost swallowed his own tongue and but for the intervention of Arsenal medics could have died, not once has Terry nor any Chelsea fan held that against Diaby, it was an accident which most football fans can accept.
It's people like Stephen Hunt and Martin Taylor who intentionally cause injuries, have seemingly no remorse and refuse to offer any apology that I hold nothing but contempt for, not people like Shawcross
The funny thing is they choose to forget the fact that in Wenger's early days they had the worst disciplinary record of any team in the top flight. The likes of Adams, Bould, Keown and Vieira were dishing it out for years yet the moment their philosophy changes to tippy tappy and small technical players they feel the goalposts should be shifted in their favour.
Didn't Arsenal accumulate 50 red cards in just 6 seasons?
And it is people like you who are the problem. Only a total ****** could think that there is any common sence in a statemnet like that, how can a thought process like that help society in a positive manner. Maybe you should revert back to biblical times - Eye for an Eye and all that?
And we wonder why the world is in the sorry state it is! What a total low life!
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Aresenal 87
Well I have responded to you on your thread and I now read your tripe on here.
I will no longer bother commenting but for you :
a) Stoke City wrote apologising to Arsenal. I understand that no acceptance or response was received
b) Ryan Shawcross tried to visit Ramsey. Arsenal refused!
c) Aresenal and Ramsey have never acknowledged this was an accident.
Good Bye and good riddons
Well I have responded to you on your thread and I now read your tripe on here.
I will no longer bother commenting but for you :
a) Stoke City wrote apologising to Arsenal. I understand that no acceptance or response was received
b) Ryan Shawcross tried to visit Ramsey. Arsenal refused!
c) Aresenal and Ramsey have never acknowledged this was an accident.
Good Bye and good riddons
87
I read the Arsenal board VERY often but rarely comment.. Like I said it's done with OVER. So why don't you just **** OFF.
Come back when you can talk with (a semblence of intelligence) If not I repeat **** OFF 87. Seem's most of the poster on YOUR board are sick of reading your comments. This is the STOKE board so grow some or shut the **** UP!
Pott's (Moderator along with Sgt Potter on this board) YOU have issues with anything I've said to YOU 87? Well tell Cym your Mod to P.M. me.
All posters on this thread..
Sincere apologies for the foul mouthed words I used towards Arsenal 87. I have sent a P.M. to Cym and it's done with.
It takes a lot for me to resort to using four letter words, this time I thought he went OTT.
Now I'll give 87 time (if he wishes to come back with a reply)
And 87 I hold NO grudges against ANY Arsenal fan nor ANY of your player's. WHY should I? YOU don't know me and likewise WE don't know you. It's a Cyber world where we can all say things we regret from time to time... Sorry for the abuse I hurled your way but my view that it's done with and that you went over the top with this thread still stands.
Pott's
Good luck for the rest of the season Gunners.
Sincere apologies for the foul mouthed words I used towards Arsenal 87. I have sent a P.M. to Cym and it's done with.
It takes a lot for me to resort to using four letter words, this time I thought he went OTT.
Now I'll give 87 time (if he wishes to come back with a reply)
And 87 I hold NO grudges against ANY Arsenal fan nor ANY of your player's. WHY should I? YOU don't know me and likewise WE don't know you. It's a Cyber world where we can all say things we regret from time to time... Sorry for the abuse I hurled your way but my view that it's done with and that you went over the top with this thread still stands.
Pott's
Good luck for the rest of the season Gunners.
I wouldnt apologise.
At the end of the day most Arsenal fans (generally speaking) don't live, breathe or eat football. Sure they'll watch their streams on the Internet and read Arsenal biased blogs but they'll never experience setting foot inside a football ground. Those that do like CYM for instance are a lot more reasonable and understanding.
Sorry if I'm generalising but this happens to be the case with nearly every Arsenal fan I've ever encountered
At the end of the day most Arsenal fans (generally speaking) don't live, breathe or eat football. Sure they'll watch their streams on the Internet and read Arsenal biased blogs but they'll never experience setting foot inside a football ground. Those that do like CYM for instance are a lot more reasonable and understanding.
Sorry if I'm generalising but this happens to be the case with nearly every Arsenal fan I've ever encountered
A few points to make on the game, and Arsenal-Stoke Relations in general
1) Although it was accidental, Shawcross' tackle on Ramsey was a culmination of the general rough'em up attitude of the Stoke team, I don't have a particular problem with a team using that tactic, but if it results in an injury, naturally the responsible party are more at fault than a team that doesn't use this approach - point in case, two tackles in that game, one on Cazorla and one on Vermaelen could have ended quite badly
2) Ramsey should have accepted Shawcross' apology if he indeed visited a hospital (although I guess it's his own decision), but tbf I'd be pretty peed off if I received an apology via text
3) I think Ramsey handled the Walesgate incident rather well, he basically said he didn't care, the manager of Wales is much more at fault here than anyone else
4) I thought the pitch today was a remarkable improvement on previous visits, I know its early season but I was happy with it
5) The people that booed Ramsey were Cnut's, there's no two ways about it
6) I do find the Wenger dance rather funny, but if you're completely honest, Pulis whines just as much as Wenger, it's just that he doesn't get stereotyped as the whinging type
7) Crouch is a good player and you should play more to his strengths, i think its a bit unfair to continually lump the ball up at him when he's good technically
8) I think we as Arsenal fans have a particular bee in our bonnet regarding broken legs, Sagna had his done twice, Ramsey, Diaby and Eduardo were on the bad end of some pretty nasty challenges
9) The blogs perpetuating the idea that you are all neanderthals doesn't really help you guys out, its a bit unfair to be honest
10) re point 9, it would help if you actually signed some attractive players though
, honestly your lot must be one of the most minging teams around
Oh and Arsenal87 is a little child, so just ignore him and he'll go away
1) Although it was accidental, Shawcross' tackle on Ramsey was a culmination of the general rough'em up attitude of the Stoke team, I don't have a particular problem with a team using that tactic, but if it results in an injury, naturally the responsible party are more at fault than a team that doesn't use this approach - point in case, two tackles in that game, one on Cazorla and one on Vermaelen could have ended quite badly
2) Ramsey should have accepted Shawcross' apology if he indeed visited a hospital (although I guess it's his own decision), but tbf I'd be pretty peed off if I received an apology via text
3) I think Ramsey handled the Walesgate incident rather well, he basically said he didn't care, the manager of Wales is much more at fault here than anyone else
4) I thought the pitch today was a remarkable improvement on previous visits, I know its early season but I was happy with it
5) The people that booed Ramsey were Cnut's, there's no two ways about it
6) I do find the Wenger dance rather funny, but if you're completely honest, Pulis whines just as much as Wenger, it's just that he doesn't get stereotyped as the whinging type
7) Crouch is a good player and you should play more to his strengths, i think its a bit unfair to continually lump the ball up at him when he's good technically
8) I think we as Arsenal fans have a particular bee in our bonnet regarding broken legs, Sagna had his done twice, Ramsey, Diaby and Eduardo were on the bad end of some pretty nasty challenges
9) The blogs perpetuating the idea that you are all neanderthals doesn't really help you guys out, its a bit unfair to be honest
10) re point 9, it would help if you actually signed some attractive players though
, honestly your lot must be one of the most minging teams aroundOh and Arsenal87 is a little child, so just ignore him and he'll go away
Theo
Whilst your post is more or less correct and to the point (well done for that) Kudos re Crouch, it's useless to do it. BUT, we usually play with two wide men, Pennant and Etherington. We didn't yesterday and I think Pulis did it to try and match your midfield to some extent. And although you passed it around that was about all you did.
As for the Stoke fans being called (cavemen) HOW the HELL do YOU think that makes us feel?
And YOU think we should buy better looking player's ( If that's what you meant) What a load of ball cocks.. utterly stupid comment IMO.
Arsenal 87 can do one.. he's a bigger wum on your board than he is here.
Whilst your post is more or less correct and to the point (well done for that) Kudos re Crouch, it's useless to do it. BUT, we usually play with two wide men, Pennant and Etherington. We didn't yesterday and I think Pulis did it to try and match your midfield to some extent. And although you passed it around that was about all you did.
As for the Stoke fans being called (cavemen) HOW the HELL do YOU think that makes us feel?
And YOU think we should buy better looking player's ( If that's what you meant) What a load of ball cocks.. utterly stupid comment IMO.
Arsenal 87 can do one.. he's a bigger wum on your board than he is here.