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How will you be voting?

  • Remain

    Votes: 89 46.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 104 53.9%
  • Total voters
    193
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Tobes said:
So the pound hitting a 30 year low and the BoE having to put up £250BN to arrest the decline was a figment of my imagination then? Pheeewwwww.
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The Bank of England didn't put up £250bn at all. They said they had that amount in reserve if it was needed. This is was a warning to the speculators and reassurance to the market that there wouldn't be a liquidity crisis. If you think it did can you provide a link?
You don't seem to have much understanding of markets. There's a mixture of panic and speculation. Calm down and give it a few weeks and things will be fine.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
So we negotiate it. I saw Farage saying a 5% tax on trade as an example.

This is the opportunity for our politicians to get their finger out and do something. I doubt they will as for the most part they're lazy self centred ****ers on a cushy gravy train.
I'm hoping theres someone of whatever party to take this opportunity.
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Is this the same Farage that said we could spend the money we send to the EU on the NHS only to say 'nah, was just kidding'? You're hoping someone will take this opportunity? Hope!
 
SimonGraysJacket said:
It will be a slow process, but in 3 or 4 years we should hopefully be in a position where we can plan our public services better.
Having some control over immigration will allow us to better determine the number of school places, houses, that are likely to be needed, and what skills shortages we have in our workforce. We can then allow people from anywhere in the world of our choosing, to come and fill these specific vacancies.
It simply was absolutely unsustainable to allow migration of 300,000 to 400,000 people per annum indefinitely.
It will take a few years to get this to a more sustainable number (around 50,000 to 100,000 is reasonable in my opinion).
It was also crazy that we could not stop EU citizens coming here with no job, whilst commonwealth doctors and nurses have to jump through hoops to try and come here sometimes taking months to process if let in at all.

There will be economic bumps in the road first, but you can't bake a cake without breaking a few eggs to start with.

I am proud of the British people having confidence in our ability to govern ourselves, and I look forward to a brighter future for kids and grandkids.
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Just to address your point regarding migration numbers - just over half of those migrating are from outside the EU, and are already totally under our control, or rather the control of the UK government, already. So even if EU migration stopped tomorrow, we would still be running at about double of the numbers you suggest is reasonable. I'm not arguing on whether those numbers are are good or bad thing, just that none of the mainstream political parties are running with a manifesto to dramatically reduce immigration and I can't see it happening, sorry.
 
SimonGraysJacket said:
I'm hoping that the large number of people who must have registered to vote in the referendum, have now got a taste for politics, actually having seen that their vote actually counted and made a difference.
Hopefully in the next round of local elections they will be more engaged and we might be able to get rid of some incumbent imberciles.
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OK, I see you changed "not" to "now". Very good point, and I strongly agree.
 
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Tobes said:
So the pound hitting a 30 year low and the BoE having to put up £250BN to arrest the decline was a figment of my imagination then? Pheeewwwww.
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That was for liquidity reasons. It doesnt mean you are going to crash into oblivion and burn its just to make sure that the money is there to stop a greater panic.
 
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brownbagtiger said:
Just to address your point regarding migration numbers - just over half of those migrating are from outside the EU, and are already totally under our control, or rather the control of the UK government, already. So even if EU migration stopped tomorrow, we would still be running at about double of the numbers you suggest is reasonable. I'm not arguing on whether those numbers are are good or bad thing, just that none of the mainstream political parties are running with a manifesto to dramatically reduce immigration and I can't see it happening, sorry.
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I agree with you at the moment...and am hoping that the next leader/government will take on board the "unnofficial manifesto" the leave campaign was so successful with, i.e. trying to adopt a points based system.
We will see.....perhaps this is a new dawn in politics......yes I have been drinking.
 
originallambrettaman said:
The EU have no option but to negotiate a deal that punishes us, we have to be made an example of, to stop anyone else from jumping ship.

Whoever has to negotiate for us has an impossible job.
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There'll be more countries wanting to leave before any trade deal gets finalised. Are you sure the countries of the remaining EU will be happy to risk losing a large proportion of their exports?
 
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originallambrettaman said:
The EU have no option but to negotiate a deal that punishes us, we have to be made an example of, to stop anyone else from jumping ship.

Whoever has to negotiate for us has an impossible job.
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Look I'm out of work at the moment, so I'm more than happy to have a go.

Give us a good deal or we invade France.

Piece of piss.
 
SimonGraysJacket said:
I agree with you at the moment...and am hoping that the next leader/government will take on board the "unnofficial manifesto" the leave campaign was so successful with, i.e. trying to adopt a points based system.
We will see.....perhaps this is a new dawn in politics......yes I have been drinking.
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The UK Border Agency have problems deporting overstayers who work illegally and they release them because they conceal their passports. The Home Office should take a copy of their passport when they enter the country.
 
petersaxton said:
The Bank of England didn't put up £250bn at all. They said they had that amount in reserve if it was needed. This is was a warning to the speculators and reassurance to the market that there wouldn't be a liquidity crisis. If you think it did can you provide a link?
You don't seem to have much understanding of markets. There's a mixture of panic and speculation. Calm down and give it a few weeks and things will be fine.
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Way I saw it, it was speculation at first, i.e. betting Remain would win the day before, then panic when it didn't.

Thankfully our banks are a lot better prepared for these types of ****ery from these speculating arseholes.

I'm not knowledgeable at all about banking though Pete, so out of interest, if the ****s had bet on Out winning, would we have seen a surge in all shares?
 
Tobes said:
So the pound hitting a 30 year low and the BoE having to put up £250BN to arrest the decline was a figment of my imagination then? Pheeewwwww.
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Where has it been said they have put 250 billion in. We have that in reserve if the situation deteriorated significantly. !!!! Get your facts straight.

Sorry thats already been said, I was pouring a beer!!
 
ellewoods said:
I think you will be alright he wont be elected. Although Hillary is a threat to world peace as well.
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About the only good thing between the 2 of them I can see is, at least if Trump won anything he did would be telegraphed for all to see. Hilary is way more sneaky, but just as dangerous.
 
Tobes said:
There's no legal requirement for the Govt to action the result of the referendum at all....

It'd be political suicide, but so will being the incumbent party who's now lumbered with dealing with the economic mess that the next few years is going to provide.
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Tobes said:
you can't say how we'd have faired in 08 if we were outside the EU, what you can do is state the facts as they stand 8 years later. It appears some want to try and re-write history based on hypotheticals
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But you can make claims like this? Get a grip.

To get you right

We're definitely heading into recession, although we're still in Europe for the foreseeable future.

We were in recession 8 years ago, whilst in the EU, but not because of the EU. Japan went into recession too because it was a world wide crash even though it didn't include the whole wide world.

We recovered quicker and stronger than virtually all of our European counterparts although they were in the EU too but our better recovery was because we were a member of the EU.

You saw the pound & shares crash but didn't notice the recovery.

You accuse others of putting spin on the actual facts yet you put facts on your own spin.


You're very bitter & muddled. Accept it, don't whinge like a bitch guessing what may or may not happen. Get on with it.
 
petersaxton said:
The UK Border Agency have problems deporting overstayers who work illegally and they release them because they conceal their passports. The Home Office should take a copy of their passport when they enter the country.
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Evidence for this? The Border Agency would have a record of the passport & number used when they entered the country, so would have no problem working out where to deport them to even if they claimed they had "lost" the passport.
 
Happy Tiger said:
About the only good thing between the 2 of them I can see is, at least if Trump won anything he did would be telegraphed for all to see. Hilary is way more sneaky, but just as dangerous.
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If the Remainers here are bricking themselves... just thank the lord your not American. If certain things happen there it'll be like a Tsunami across the world for all financial markets.
 
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