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Parker is still a very decent heavyweight and I'd fancy him to beat Bellew who is overrated and beat the worst David Haye you're likely to see. The Whyte fight would be a good match up, as much I like Dillian I think he might just lose out on points due to Parkers faster hands and very solid boxing technique. Wouldn't be much in it as Whyte has a good chin and huge heart but hasn't Parkers overall boxing skills.
Regards the Canelo and GGG fight I've always said in here that Canelo would give him huge difficulties. GGG hasn't really a defence to speak of but obviously offsets that with concussive knockout power in both hands. Since Mayweather effectively whipped a 22 year old Canelo around he has been a different beast and very much one of the very best boxers on the planet. 6/4 is a very fair price and I can see that getting bigger on the day of the fight. Anything much north of 6/4 would rate a proper bet to me as I see it much more a 50/50 than most do or very certainly most didn't see it as such until recently. Canelo has a huge talent, a very good defence and can really box, he hasn't much weakness. Should be a barnstorming fight that. 2017 has and will be a brilliant boxing year overall.
Regards the Canelo and GGG fight I've always said in here that Canelo would give him huge difficulties. GGG hasn't really a defence to speak of but obviously offsets that with concussive knockout power in both hands. Since Mayweather effectively whipped a 22 year old Canelo around he has been a different beast and very much one of the very best boxers on the planet. 6/4 is a very fair price and I can see that getting bigger on the day of the fight. Anything much north of 6/4 would rate a proper bet to me as I see it much more a 50/50 than most do or very certainly most didn't see it as such until recently. Canelo has a huge talent, a very good defence and can really box, he hasn't much weakness. Should be a barnstorming fight that. 2017 has and will be a brilliant boxing year overall.
The Floyd Mayweather v Conor McGregor fiasco appears to have taken a major step in the right direction. According to both McGregor and UFC chairman Dana White, they've signed their end of the proposed deal for the bout. In a promotion some are saying could be the biggest earner in the history of the sport, the amounts talked about are in the vicinity of a billion dollars.
On November 21, 2015, the power punching, WBC World Super Featherweight Champion Takashi Miura of Japan climbed into the ring for the fifth defence of his belt. The man in the opposite corner was Mexico City banger Francisco Vargas. The Ring Magazine Fight of the Year came to a brutal end in the ninth with champ leading on the score cards, 77-74, 76-75 & 75-75.
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There's a really interesting fight tonight in London. The IBF Super Featherweight Champion Gervonta Davis has crossed the pond to put his belt on the line against England's Liam Walsh. Betting has "Tank" Davis as an overwhelming favourite for the fight, he's at about the 3-11 mark while the man known as "Destiny" is a 7-2 shot. Davis is a beast with his fists, winning 16 of his unbeaten 17 bouts by knock out. Walsh on the other hand appears to be a bit more slick around the ring and faster of hand, but he can't pop like Davis. Of his 21 wins, only 14 have come by stoppage. Walsh is also unbeaten. Both are south paws. I think a few people may be underestimating Walsh's ability. If he can keep on the move, he has enough talent to steal rounds. Can he stay away and steal enough rounds? Dunno. Walsh has a bit going for him. He's as keen as mustard and will have the crowd behind him, so if it goes the distance, anything can happen. Personally, I think Gervonta Davis will prove too good. Fingers crossed for young Liam though.
I'm a big fan of all three Walsh brothers (although Michael is now retired) and think this is a very interesting fight. I do agree with your assessment though, i think Davis will just prove too good but Walsh should enhance his reputation in the process.
Gervonta Davis v Liam Walsh. IBF Super Featherweight title fight last night. Not quite 3 rounds.
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He has definitely backed up what he did in his last fight against Pedraza. The worry was he could have possibly been another American hype job. I think we can safely say he isn't all hype. Liam Walsh is no mug, he is a very good boxer and has been destroyed here
Ok, sensational happenings at the Andre Dirrell v Oscar Escandon bout. Dirrell won the IBF Interim Super Middleweight Title by disqualification after being clipped a fraction of a second after the bell. As the clip shows, he said he was alright, but voices implored him to stay down. This way he could salvage the bout by dq. He did, he won by dq while behind on points. But fair enough, he was clipped late. It didn't look good though. The ref got it right.
Then all hell broke loose in the ring. Dirrells' uncle and trainer took exception to the late shot on his nephew and went the thug route. He then did a runner. The police are now looking for him. First the fight ending, then the melee.
Then all hell broke loose in the ring. Dirrells' uncle and trainer took exception to the late shot on his nephew and went the thug route. He then did a runner. The police are now looking for him. First the fight ending, then the melee.
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Hugely impressive from May weather's charge, seemed as if he simply decided to move from 1st gear to top gear in the third, having been slightly cautious at the opening. There's levels to the games and Walsh is nowhere near world level on that showing. Loma destroys Davis too BTW reaffirming this view!
Daniel Dubios showed nothing more than he carries horrific power in his hands. A 40 second KO last night! If he can take a punch Frank Warren possibly has an absolute star on his hands but its such early days to get carried away. In saying that, you'd struggle to think (straight off anyway) of a much more exciting 19 year old heavy weight for a long time. Hope he gets plenty of experience over the next 12 months and we might even see him competing at British level against the likes of Cornish, Dave Allen etc I suspect in a years time he'll be well ahead of those but who knows. I like him anyway and hope he proves me right within a year!
On the world stage I hear Terence Crawford put on a masterclass, hope to catch it at some point today. He's a proper special talent.
Daniel Dubios showed nothing more than he carries horrific power in his hands. A 40 second KO last night! If he can take a punch Frank Warren possibly has an absolute star on his hands but its such early days to get carried away. In saying that, you'd struggle to think (straight off anyway) of a much more exciting 19 year old heavy weight for a long time. Hope he gets plenty of experience over the next 12 months and we might even see him competing at British level against the likes of Cornish, Dave Allen etc I suspect in a years time he'll be well ahead of those but who knows. I like him anyway and hope he proves me right within a year!
On the world stage I hear Terence Crawford put on a masterclass, hope to catch it at some point today. He's a proper special talent.
Harsh decision that, i'm not sure he could have pulled back that punch if he had wanted to right in the middle of a combo. Seems a little hard done by there but i suppose by the letter of the law the right decision was made
Very strongly agree with the two bits i've highlighted. With regards Daniel Dubois, i can't wait to see how he moves along through the heavyweight division. I was at his debut fight a few weeks ago but like i think i've mentioned on here before the bloke he fought could have been anyone from the local pub. Its still very early days with him but hes definitely someone to look forward to in the future
Yep, one of the things about these big banging novices is that we can all to often get caught up in the power without giving too much consideration to the opponent's chin, and their own. They storm their way through a bunch of cab drivers, stunning them inside a round or two, but they are quickly found out when they reach the better class of fighter. Joe Parker is the classic example. People were raving about his raw power until he ran into seasoned pros. Now we see him as a decent technician who lacks the sting we all thought he had. And he hasn't had his chin properly tested either.
Daniel Dubois is an exciting prospect, but Dave Howe was cherry picked for the young bloke, because Howe has no chin. Of his five losses before last night, big Dave had been knocked out four times. Of his last eight fights, his record now stands at 5 losses and 3 wins. Poor old Dave was there for the easy kill.
Daniel Dubois is an exciting prospect, but Dave Howe was cherry picked for the young bloke, because Howe has no chin. Of his five losses before last night, big Dave had been knocked out four times. Of his last eight fights, his record now stands at 5 losses and 3 wins. Poor old Dave was there for the easy kill.
Just noticed Smoke's new avatar, Jersey Joe Walcott and Rocky Marciano. This their first fight featured the Round of the Year, round 13. It was the Fight of the Year and Ring rated it the 16th best Title Fight of All Time in 1996. It's nice to see the greats of the past being featured before the bout started.
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The global spotlight of boxing mostly shines the brightest on the heavier fighters. The likes of Joshua, Wilder, Fury, Ward, Kovalev, Golovkin, Alvarez and Lomachenko get great dollops when it comes to press headlines, while some of the blokes down in the weights barely get a torch light worth of interest. One such gent is the WBO Super Flyweight Champion Naoya Inoue of Japan. The man known as the Monster has just 14 unbeaten fights under his belt and an amazing 8 World Title fights to his credit. In his 6th fight he won the WBC Light Flyweight crown, becoming the first man to win the WBC Title in so few bouts. After a defence he stepped up two divisions to snatch the WBO Super Featherweight belt. Last night he made his 5th defence of that title. The thing about the man is that he takes a few, but nobody can keep him off them. The number 2 WBO Ricardo Rodriguez tasted his power yesterday. In many people's books, Naoya Inoue is one of the best 10 fighters in the game.
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After chasing for what seems forever, another shot at a heavyweight title, 45 year old Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs may have pissed it all away. According to ESPN's Dan Rafael, Briggs has tested positive to a VADA drug test. Dramatically elevated levels of testosterone being the culprit. It looks as though Fres Oquendo may have to scrap with someone else for the "Regular" belt.
No wonder Briggs been looking a million dollars the last few years then if he's been juicing...
Am I missing something? I thought going into the fight this weekend, Kell Brook would be the man to beat, but according to the satchel swingers, he's beginning to get on the nose. He's now out to better than 5-2 against Errol Spences' 4-6. They're both the same height, but Brook has a 2 inch reach deficit. Brook keeps saying he's the biggest welterweight in the game, but I'm starting to wonder if Spences' brilliance might prove to much. I hope not though.