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In New Zealand Joe Parker and his trainer Kevin Barry watched the fight. They seem to have differing emotions throughout the bout. Barry was pumped when Joshua dumped Klitschko and when he ended the fight. Parker on the other hand, came alive when Klitschko dropped Joseph, and didn't look too pleased when the fight came to an end. Barry I think sees the huge bucks in a Joshua bout, whereas Parker sees a pounding.

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I doubt he'll be getting a shot at Joshua anytime soon, as I can think of atleast 3 much bigger fights that Joshua could take. A rematch with Klitschko looks the likeliest if Klitschko wants it, as it was in the contract, then you have a Tyson Fury match, or even a fight with Deontay Wilder would probably be a bigger pay day for Joshua.

I think Joe Parkers best bet of a big fight in England anytime soon, would be to fight Tony Bellew. If he could win that fight, then I think he'd be in line for a fight with Joshua.
 
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In New Zealand Joe Parker and his trainer Kevin Barry watched the fight. They seem to have differing emotions throughout the bout. Barry was pumped when Joshua dumped Klitschko and when he ended the fight. Parker on the other hand, came alive when Klitschko dropped Joseph, and didn't look too pleased when the fight came to an end. Barry I think sees the huge bucks in a Joshua bout, whereas Parker sees a pounding. You can see the tv in the background.

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Parker stands no chance against, AJ, Klitschko, or Fury
 
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Dillian Whyte is becoming a decent barometer, in my view he's one just operating at that level below your Joshua's, Wilders etc but probably good enough to fight for a world title at some point. He'd be a decent gauge for Parker but a fight I'd love to see and I think it could happen is Whyte-Bellew that'd be a right tear up and I'd fancy Whyte should it materialise.
 
Interesting that, Wilder is taller and has a longer reach than Joshua (1"), Klitschko (2") and Parker (7").

Wilder is also 3" taller than Parker and 1" taller than Joshua/Klitschko. Fury is a giant 6'9" with an 85" reach. Imagine him against Parker (5" taller and 9" reach advantage)
 
Dillian Whyte is becoming a decent barometer, in my view he's one just operating at that level below your Joshua's, Wilders etc but probably good enough to fight for a world title at some point. He'd be a decent gauge for Parker but a fight I'd love to see and I think it could happen is Whyte-Bellew that'd be a right tear up and I'd fancy Whyte should it materialise.

It would be a good fight alright Beefy, but I don't think Bellew is too interested in Whyte. He seems to be looking for bigger fish to fry. Either way, I think both Bellew and Whyte are a fair way down the pecking order at the moment.

Maybe we could put up our top ten?
 
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Bellew is not a credible challenger for the heavyweight division. He had trouble putting away an embarrassingly slow cripple in an embarrassing painful to watch farce.
 
My Top 10 would be
Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Deontay Wilder
Vladimir Klitschko
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Bunch of nobodies to fight out the next 6 places. Can't think of anyone else fit to fight any of those 4 above
 
I can't see the re-match happening. Klitschko getting older and AJ getting better. I think Klitschko may well retire now. I think that was his swan song. He gave it all he got and it would be no disgrace to bow out after that. I have more respect for Klitschko after that performance than I have ever had. Apart from Lewis he has fought mainly nobodies. But as Toppy says above, there is a big gap between the top and the bottom with very few in between. I suppose it stands to reason really; there can't be 20 or 30 boxers capable of giving the best one a good fight. In reality there will only be a handful at most. So it's no surprise that Klitschko had fought mainly no-hopers; it's the same for any champion in any era, particularly in the heavyweight division. AJ has also fought mainly no hopers (44 rounds over 18 fights) and who is there to face him now? Fury would probably be his biggest test (he's big, strong, fast, punches hard and has a tremendous reach advantage) - but will we ever see him again? Wilder is the obvious choice but he doesn't have the skills of Klitscko and would probably not last long unless he got lucky; he doesn't let his opponents off the rope once he has them going. Anyone else will find that AJ is a different class to anyone they have beaten so far. I think Charles Martin was ranked right up there until he met AJ.

So, just to re-iterate Toppy's comment, there is a massive gap between the top and the bottom with very few in between. This brings me to Shergs comment about Klitschko not having been given the respect he deserves. It's not Klitschko's fault that he didn't have a stream of top fighters to beat and that 54 of them (almost 55) couldn't go the distance. Going back to his original style that last got him beaten almost regained his title but ultimately, was once again his undoing. He can be proud of what he has achieved inside and outside the ring.

Wrong Klitschko Ron
 
I think the rematch with Klitschko is going to happen before anything else does. From what I've read he's looking to invoke his rematch clause.

Money wise and interest wise I think the rematch makes sense, as there isn't another opponent that Joshua could face that would top the other night.

The Tyson Fury fight will probably happen eventually, but I think Fury is along way off being in good enough shape to fight again.
 
I think the rematch with Klitschko is going to happen before anything else does. From what I've read he's looking to invoke his rematch clause.

Money wise and interest wise I think the rematch makes sense, as there isn't another opponent that Joshua could face that would top the other night.

The Tyson Fury fight will probably happen eventually, but I think Fury is along way off being in good enough shape to fight again.


Klitchko clearly knows that there's nothing to fear and will be even more impressive next fight then retire as champion ..


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Top ten is a bit hard, some of it depends on possible futures, such as whether Tyson Fury gets back to top shape. Seeing he's now said he's back in work, I'll give him the nod.

1. Tyson Fury. * (If he comes back.)
2. Anthony Joshua.
3. Deontay Wilder.
4. Vlad Klitschko.
5. Alexander Povetkin.
6. Hughie Fury.
7. Joe Parker.
8. Luis Ortiz.
9. Kubrat Pulev.
10. Bermaine Stiverne.

P.S. At the risk of getting everyone off side, maybe 2 & 3 reversed. The big problem for Wilder though, is a terrible defence and a possible stone and a half disadvantage.
 
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Not sure how anyone could rank Fury as the number 1 heavyweight, he'd be number 3 at best for me.

I think Klitschko would have got the better of him had he got the rematch, and he still might get it.

Joshua to me has little to fear with Tyson Fury either, as Fury doesn't have the punching power to worry him. How many average brawlers has Fury had to go the distance with as he's not had the power to take them out. Joshua would have smashed through all of Furys other opponents in a few rounds.

Fury even got floored by the cruiser weight Steve Cunningham who doesn't have half the punching power of Joshua. Cunningham wouldn't get past a round with Joshua.

Joshua for me would blast through Fury the same way he has all his other opponents.
 
Klitchko clearly knows that there's nothing to fear and will be even more impressive next fight then retire as champion ..


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Yeh should be a walkover for a probable 42 year old man.

All he has to do is face an even fitter, stronger and more highly motivated AJ. Add in the experience of being in a tough fight and knowing what it takes to win such fights. Then the fact that AJ is a fantastic athlete, with nasty horrible power and a mean streak as wide as the Grand Canyon.

Yeh nothing to worry about for Wlad.
 
Where does Anthony Joshua go from here? The IBF have stated that he must face Kubrat Pulev next, but Klitschko has AJ tied to him. If VK exercises that option, then there's every chance that the IBF will strip AJ of his belt, as they did Tyson Fury. Then there's the WBA problem. They stated some months back that the winner of the AJ - VK bout must face Luis Ortiz next. If AJ doesn't honour the WBA commitment, then that belt is at risk. Fast Eddie is going to have to do some serious dance steps if he wants his man to keep all the goodies.
 
Where does Anthony Joshua go from here? The IBF have stated that he must face Kubrat Pulev next, but Klitschko has AJ tied to him. If VK exercises that option, then there's every chance that the IBF will strip AJ of his belt, as they did Tyson Fury. Then there's the WBA problem. They stated some months back that the winner of the AJ - VK bout must face Luis Ortiz next. If AJ doesn't honour the WBA commitment, then that belt is at risk. Fast Eddie is going to have to do some serious dance steps if he wants his man to keep all the goodies.
Simple. Put Pulev in for Round 1. Carry him out and stick Ortez in for a couple of rounds. The Klitschko can come in for round 4 onwards.