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Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Cyclonic, May 17, 2015.

  1. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Maybe to some degree but back then even street fighting was an art form. Fury is more your Leeds United supporting, EDL member kick you in the face with his Timberlands sort of street fighter!
     
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  2. SwanHills

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    <laugh> Glad my team don't have any thug fans................<whistle>
     
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  3. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    One less domestic clash for Anthony Joshua to worry about now



    He should retire now
     
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  4. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Another bad judging decision ruins another fight. Last night in his home town Manchesters Anthony Crolla should have become England's 2nd world lightweight champion in as many weeks when he beat the current champion Darley's Perez but the fight was scored a draw. It's the one thing that really can spoil the sport and over the last few years it is becoming more and more of an issue. In other fights Scott Quigg scored a very impressive 2nd round stoppage defending his world title over former champion Kiko Martinez. Over the other side of the pond Quiggs main rival Carl Frampton made his American debut in El Paso Texas against the unfancied Mexican Alejandro Gonzalez Jnr. A shock looked on the card as Frampton was dropped twice in the opening round, but it wasn't to be. Framptons class showed throughout the rest of the fight and he battled to a comfortable points victory. Surely Barry McGuigan (Framptons manager) is now running out of excuses not to make the Quigg fight, it just has to happen. Although after the fight Frampton mentioned he'd struggled with the weight and said he might move up to Featherweight, he won't find it any easier up there with champions Selby, Russell Jnr, Walters and Lomachenko waiting for him! The other option for Quigg is the great four weight world champion Nonito Donaire who himself won last night by 2nd round ko. There's talk of Donaire travelling to Manchester for the fight and I'm hoping it does happen as he's one of my favourite fighters and a future hall of gamer and it's been a while since I've attended a fight
     
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  5. Dancingbraveforever

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    Lovely guy that David price is , he should retire gracefully. He looked so physically weak against this guy . Pawing him with an insignificant jab. God only knows what Joshua would have done to him with all his brute power!!
     
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    I can't top Smokeys post Swan <laugh> just caught up with the last weeks posts here.
     
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  7. Cyclonic

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    Next Saturday sees the reappearance of one of the rising super stars of the sport, one Sergey Kovalev. The Light Heavyweight, WBA, IBF and WBO champion from Russia puts all titles on the line when he steps into the ring against Nadjib Mohammedi of France. The challenger comes into the bout as the top rated fighter in both the WBA and IBF organisations. He does look to have the fight of his life before him though. He fought well in going down in a unanimous points decision to Nathan Cleverly on 2010, but it seems as though he has come on a lot since then. The bad news for him though, is that Kovalev gave Cleverly a terrible beating when he ripped the WBO belt from the Welshman in 2013.

    Mohammedi is fast of foot and hand but does not have the hitting power of Kovalev. He has a 58% knockout rate compared to the Russian's 86%. He is also smaller in statute and has a lesser reach. He crouches somewhat in action, where as Kovalev is more straight backed. In the ring they'll look mismatched. The Frenchman will have to stay on his bike if he's to go the distance, but I can't see it happening. The champion is another one of of those new, conveyor belt fighters out of Russia. Big punching blokes who methodically hunt down their prey and bash them into submission. For the life of me, I just can't see how Mohammedi can keep Kovalev off him. I think one of them is in for some serious pain, and I don't believe it'll be Sergey Kovalev.
     
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  8. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Maybe a bit too nice, I've always thought he lacked heart and self belief. whenever he talked in interviews, even before his losses to Tony Thompson he always came across like he never really thought he belonged
     
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  9. smokethedeadbadger

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    Once he walks through this bloke, his management will have to start having serious discussions about a 'super fight' against the likes of Adonis Stephenson or Andre Ward. Kovalev is a special talent but hasn't really been tested. I thought Pascal might have given him a bit of trouble in his last fight but It wasn't to be. I think he'll beat Stephenson comfortably but Andre Ward would be a really interesting fight.
     
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  10. Dancingbraveforever

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    Sergei Kovalev is an absolute beast !! Adonis Stevenson really wouldn't know what hit him . The Andre ward fight would be the ultimate for him as I believe he the best P4P fighter in the world . But even then the raw power of Kovalev would give ward problems all night long .
     
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    Generally priced up as Klitschko 1/4, Fury 3/1 tells its own story as what the perceived outcome will be. If Fury does get beaten as seems likely, and assuming Joshua has had a walk in the park win, or even two, could a potential Joshua and Fury match up be in the offing perhaps next spring? Wouldn't be unlikely if Fury gets beat as easily as most expect Joshua could very likely be the favourite assuming he's blown away a couple more the way he has so far.
     
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  12. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    I think when Fury gets beat and if he hasn't put up a good showing I honestly think he might actually retire. Joshua would wipe him out, just maybe not as quickly as he has been doing with all the bums he's fought so far
     
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    It's easy to get carried away with Joshua though, I personally thinks it's a ridiculous amount of hype for what's he done so far. If they were to fight next month in the O2, I'd actually take Fury to win, albeit in the knowledge Joshua could KO him within 3 minutes, if you know what I'm saying! The British media love to hype up their next big thing though! Let's consider the evidence. Your man Joshua is a gold medal Olympian. He's grade A marketable and he's putting these stiffs to sleep without breaking sweat. I give you the next big thing in boxing ladies and gentlemen, Audley the Fraudley Harrison! Remember him <laugh> I'm not saying Joshua will turn out the same, but it's a remarkably similar path thus far, that's all I'm saying! Hope I'm wrong, the division needs Joshua to put it back in the spotlight.
     
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    You're right it easy for the hype to get a bit silly and it is also true that Joshua hasn't been properly tested or fought anyone of any real note. There have also been past cases, Fraudley like you've already mentioned, David Price also, lets not forget the hype that surrounded him aswell. But it is quite clear for all to see the ability that Joshua possesses and its not his fault that he's only fought 'bums', he can only beat whats put in front of him. Look at Fury's record, it isn't exactly a who's who of heavyweight stars, his biggest victory was against Chisora (twice) and due to the piss poor standard of the world heavyweight division he is now the no.1 contender to fight the only current legitimate and proven heavyweight star and i'm including Deontay Wilder when i say that. Despite him being the WBC champ he himself is still unproven and has just been very well managed.

    Joshua could be anything or could he be just another wannabe but from what i've seen i'm willing to board the hype train and believe he will go all the way. If i get proven wrong then so be it
     
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  15. Cyclonic

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    Talk of Tyson on another thread, led me to relive old memories.Turn off the ****ty music and think of what this man would do to present day heavyweights.

     
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    Something like this perhaps?
     
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    As a boxing fan Oddy, even I find it hard to justify the sport from an ethical point of view. That we, in this day and age, condone a sport where the primary objective is to assault another human being, is surely beyond the bounds of reason. But we don't live in an ideal world, so I'll just go with the flow and marvel at the brutality of it all. I guess in not being able to rise above the thrill and savage barbarity of the spectacle, I must confess to being the lesser man for it.
     
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    "Tyson Fury accused Wladimir Klitschko of being as charismatic as his underwear".

    Boxers are well-known for stupid remarks but this takes the biscuit from this 26-year-old heavyweight. Utterly idiotic remark.

    For Fury's information, both Klitschko brothers speak four languages fluently (maybe more), are highly intelligent, and have managed to protect their brains from the ravages of their profession. The younger Klitschko might lack the "charisma" for Fury's wacky world, but both he and his brother have always paid attention to business, with some success, I might add. Comedy routines (which, incidentally, are two a penny in this world) took back seats in their lives.

    Mr Fury, are you really 26, you look at least 40 to me? You may well pay for that crackpot comment.
     
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  19. Dancingbraveforever

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    Fury is just a walking, talking embarrassment of a man. How you could possible denigrate one of the most intelligent and dignified world champions ever is a disgrace! Hope Vladimir does a real job on him.
     
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  20. TopClass

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    Trust me, Joshua is not a British media hype job. The media still don't really know what they have on their hands in my opinion. He is not Lennox reincarnated and he isn't Tyson or Holyfield, we need to put that out of our minds. What he is however is streets ahead of the other contenders and still with so much more to learn and add to his game.

    I just hope that American guy Deontay Wilder keeps skittling a few trash cans so the Americans hype him to the max, because he is getting KO'd when he meets a good fighter and big puncher and I want a nice price on it!

    Heavyweight arms, Featherweight legs.
     
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