Tyson Fury doesn't get any credit from me mate. Hes just an awkward and ungainly lump with good head movement.
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Glad to hear it, I thought he'd fooled the masses
He is just a master of the BS, though I do like his character.
I'm one of the masses Smoke.
I just have to admire a man who just keeps getting the job done, no matter how ugly.
Eddie Hearn has posted his thoughts on Joshua's next fight. Although the WBO is at the head of the rotation queue, Matchroom seem intent on getting the IBF mandatory bout against Pulev as their next target. The thinking from some of the online commentators is really interesting. According to them, Matchroom fear losing a belt. If Joshua fights Pulev, they lose the WBO strap. If he fights Usyk, they lose the IBF title. One of the best chances of keeping all the belts with in the Matchroom camp, is to fight Pulev for the IBF, then have Usyk and Whyte (both signed ti Matchroom) fight for the vacant WBO title.
If they are forced to fight Usky first, then the vacant IBF might call for a Pulev - Kownacki fight for their vacant belt. This lays open the chance of the WBO strap falling into the hands of Al Haymon's PBC. They could then have two world champions, Wilder and Kownacki. It's certainly not something Hearn would be too happy with.
If they are forced to fight Usky first, then the vacant IBF might call for a Pulev - Kownacki fight for their vacant belt. This lays open the chance of the WBO strap falling into the hands of Al Haymon's PBC. They could then have two world champions, Wilder and Kownacki. It's certainly not something Hearn would be too happy with.
a nightmare with all these belts really isn’t it. There should be an ability for unified champions to override the mandatory whilst they fight one at a time.
Or just ONE belt
I believe that, if someone is knocked down, the count continues if the end of round bell rings. If it is the last round what happens if the count gets to (say) 9, the final bell rings, and the felled boxer is still flat on his back. I think it would be decided on points but that would be rather strange if the flattened boxer won
They breed 'em weak today Ron. 
One of the all time great heavyweight bouts took place on April 17, 1909 in France, a fight that would last 49 terrible rounds. It was cruel and it was bloody. At a time when black heavyweights had trouble getting a shot at the title, Sam McVey and Joe Jeanette traveled to Europe where good black fighters were better appreciated and better paid. In that famous April clash, there were an amazing 38 knock downs.
An excerpt by Jihn Cressy of the Los Angeles Times. Mr.Cressy quotes boxing historian Bert Sugar.
“Shooting out of their corners, the two men joined together in the middle of the ring like bull moose in unyielding combat for their turf,” Sugar wrote.
McVey struck the first big blow minutes into the bout, a left that knocked Jeannette down. McVey knocked Jeannette down again, and again.
But again and again, Jeannette rose. Finally, near the end of the 16th round, a devastating right from McVey to the jaw sent Jeannette crashing to the canvas, this time for an apparent knockout.
But, at the count of eight, Jeannette was saved by the bell. “Dragged to his corner like a piece of raw meat, Jeannette somehow found his way out for the seventeenth, there to meet the gloves of McVey, who, now fed by his momentum, gave Jeannette an unmerciful beating, finally driving him to the floor at the bell, the twenty-first trip he had made to the well-worn canvas,” Sugar wrote.
At that point, Jeannette was saved by the clever gamesmanship of his trainer, Willie Lewis.
Lewis ran up the steps with a bucket and poured water on Jeannette.
McVey’s domination continued, but the turning point came between the 19th and 20th rounds when Lewis turned to the private physician he posted at ringside and had him administer Jeannette a bag of oxygen.
“Then, as the bell rang,” Sugar wrote, “Lewis hollered in Jeannette’s ear, ‘Now, Joe, now--go to the head.’ ”
Jeannette did just that. Now it was McVey visiting the canvas on a regular basis.
“The ring,” Sugar wrote, “was now merely a laboratory for proving Darwin’s survival of the fittest theory.”
The 42nd round saw McVey go down seven times. But, as Jeannette had done 27 times himself, McVey kept getting up.
The beating continued until, Sugar wrote, “finally, his knees melting, his eyes of no mortal use, and his nose unworkable, McVey sat on his stool in his corner after the forty-ninth round and moaned that he couldn’t go on.”
Three hours and 15 minutes after it began, the fight was over.
One of the all time great heavyweight bouts took place on April 17, 1909 in France, a fight that would last 49 terrible rounds. It was cruel and it was bloody. At a time when black heavyweights had trouble getting a shot at the title, Sam McVey and Joe Jeanette traveled to Europe where good black fighters were better appreciated and better paid. In that famous April clash, there were an amazing 38 knock downs.
An excerpt by Jihn Cressy of the Los Angeles Times. Mr.Cressy quotes boxing historian Bert Sugar.
“Shooting out of their corners, the two men joined together in the middle of the ring like bull moose in unyielding combat for their turf,” Sugar wrote.
McVey struck the first big blow minutes into the bout, a left that knocked Jeannette down. McVey knocked Jeannette down again, and again.
But again and again, Jeannette rose. Finally, near the end of the 16th round, a devastating right from McVey to the jaw sent Jeannette crashing to the canvas, this time for an apparent knockout.
But, at the count of eight, Jeannette was saved by the bell. “Dragged to his corner like a piece of raw meat, Jeannette somehow found his way out for the seventeenth, there to meet the gloves of McVey, who, now fed by his momentum, gave Jeannette an unmerciful beating, finally driving him to the floor at the bell, the twenty-first trip he had made to the well-worn canvas,” Sugar wrote.
At that point, Jeannette was saved by the clever gamesmanship of his trainer, Willie Lewis.
Lewis ran up the steps with a bucket and poured water on Jeannette.
McVey’s domination continued, but the turning point came between the 19th and 20th rounds when Lewis turned to the private physician he posted at ringside and had him administer Jeannette a bag of oxygen.
“Then, as the bell rang,” Sugar wrote, “Lewis hollered in Jeannette’s ear, ‘Now, Joe, now--go to the head.’ ”
Jeannette did just that. Now it was McVey visiting the canvas on a regular basis.
“The ring,” Sugar wrote, “was now merely a laboratory for proving Darwin’s survival of the fittest theory.”
The 42nd round saw McVey go down seven times. But, as Jeannette had done 27 times himself, McVey kept getting up.
The beating continued until, Sugar wrote, “finally, his knees melting, his eyes of no mortal use, and his nose unworkable, McVey sat on his stool in his corner after the forty-ninth round and moaned that he couldn’t go on.”
Three hours and 15 minutes after it began, the fight was over.
****. BrutalThey breed 'em weak today Ron.
One of the all time great heavyweight bouts took place on April 17, 1909 in France, a fight that would last 49 terrible rounds. It was cruel and it was bloody. At a time when black heavyweights had trouble getting a shot at the title, Sam McVey and Joe Jeanette traveled to Europe where good black fighters were better appreciated and better paid. In that famous April clash, there were an amazing 38 knock downs.
An excerpt by Jihn Cressy of the Los Angeles Times. Mr.Cressy quotes boxing historian Bert Sugar.
“Shooting out of their corners, the two men joined together in the middle of the ring like bull moose in unyielding combat for their turf,” Sugar wrote.
McVey struck the first big blow minutes into the bout, a left that knocked Jeannette down. McVey knocked Jeannette down again, and again.
But again and again, Jeannette rose. Finally, near the end of the 16th round, a devastating right from McVey to the jaw sent Jeannette crashing to the canvas, this time for an apparent knockout.
But, at the count of eight, Jeannette was saved by the bell. “Dragged to his corner like a piece of raw meat, Jeannette somehow found his way out for the seventeenth, there to meet the gloves of McVey, who, now fed by his momentum, gave Jeannette an unmerciful beating, finally driving him to the floor at the bell, the twenty-first trip he had made to the well-worn canvas,” Sugar wrote.
At that point, Jeannette was saved by the clever gamesmanship of his trainer, Willie Lewis.
Lewis ran up the steps with a bucket and poured water on Jeannette.
McVey’s domination continued, but the turning point came between the 19th and 20th rounds when Lewis turned to the private physician he posted at ringside and had him administer Jeannette a bag of oxygen.
“Then, as the bell rang,” Sugar wrote, “Lewis hollered in Jeannette’s ear, ‘Now, Joe, now--go to the head.’ ”
Jeannette did just that. Now it was McVey visiting the canvas on a regular basis.
“The ring,” Sugar wrote, “was now merely a laboratory for proving Darwin’s survival of the fittest theory.”
The 42nd round saw McVey go down seven times. But, as Jeannette had done 27 times himself, McVey kept getting up.
The beating continued until, Sugar wrote, “finally, his knees melting, his eyes of no mortal use, and his nose unworkable, McVey sat on his stool in his corner after the forty-ninth round and moaned that he couldn’t go on.”
Three hours and 15 minutes after it began, the fight was over.
According to Bob Arum, the Wilder - Fury clash has been locked in for February 22. The likely venue is the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
5-4. Wilder.
4-6. Fury.
5-4. Wilder.
4-6. Fury.
Smokey to do a wheelbarrow job on Wilder at thise odds?
Tempted at odds against to be honest. I think Wilder takes Furys head off this time.
Today Richard Commey stepped into the ring to defend his IBF World Lightweight Title. His opponent, the hard punching, rising star Teofimo Lopez.
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More often than not, gossip means sweet bugger all. But that doesn't mean it's always wrong. In an interview a couple of days ago, Bob Arum was asked if a fight between Crawford and the WBC and IBF Champion Errol Spence was possible next year. He said he didn't want to go into it too much, but he's been hearing that Spence may never fight again. When pressed, he said it was an extremely personal matter and it wasn't for him comment any further.
Here's hoping the shocking car accident hasn't left him with enduring problems.
Here's hoping the shocking car accident hasn't left him with enduring problems.
I see Tyson Fury has split with his trainer Ben Davison. Be interesting to see where he goes next. Trainer over in the states to continue with raising his profile over there or maybe someone like Shane McGuigan.
Yeah we will see mate- I know his old man was very critical of his condition last time out and would want him a bit stronger and heavier.
Important decision