Bournemouth vs Newcastle

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Charlie Dogscock said:
It's the same thing in this case as the transition was immediate from January, and this is a team from then, rather than one which was created over the summer.

You could even class the start of the season as something of a blip, remember the first 8 games, ie P8 W1 D6 L1.
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It's not because every side is different and the same clubs aren't in the league. There's also a summer break.

Doing it over two half's isn't the same as doing a full season.. the pressure etc It's all completely different
 
ToonArmy1892 said:
Anyone complaining about the season so far are just these people who are only ever happy when they are moaning.

No one thought we would be 4th (3rd tomorrow if we win) and in a cup final at the start of the season, no one.

We are ahead of schedule.
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Can you show me the people who're saying they're unhappy with this season so far? Ive not seen anyone tbh.
 
Rex Kramer said:
It's not because every side is different and the same clubs aren't in the league. There's also a summer break.

Doing it over two half's isn't the same as doing a full season.. the pressure etc It's all completely different
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Arsenal's result since start of year - P4 W2 D1 L1
Our results since start of year - P4 W1 D3 L0

Regardless of the recent below par performances, we are definitely "doing it".
 
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Rex Kramer said:
Then you agree with what I'm saying .

The entire situation is nothing but positive even if the clubs finishes 10th..

there's an assumption there that this is a dip and before Christmas wasn't just a good run .. we don't know which way that will go yet, but right now things have been on the slide.
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Charlie Dogscock said:
Arsenal's result since start of year - P4 W2 D1 L1
Our results since start of year - P4 W1 D3 L0

Regardless of the recent below par performances, we are definitely "doing it".
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Doing what ? The conversation was that we don't know which way the rest of the season will go.

Your position is that it's just dip and top 4 is now inevitable.

My position is that even finishing 10th would be nothing but positive and we'll have to wait and see what almost an entire half season unfolds .

Both views are fine .
 
10th now would be a disappointment, it's silly to say it would be positive, you are also allowed to change expectations according to how the season is progressing.
 
Rex Kramer said:
Doing what ? The conversation was that we don't know which way the rest of the season will go.

Your position is that it's just dip and top 4 is now inevitable.

My position is that even finishing 10th would be nothing but positive and we'll have to wait and see what almost an entire half season unfolds .

Both views are fine .
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Doing it, as in being successful and not dropping off.

I've never said top 4 was inevitable, that's what my prediction would be right now, but in no way do I think it's inevitable.

Finishing 10th would be nothing but positive? Maybe that could have been a view at the start of the season, but to finish 10th from being in the position we are now would be a massive disappointment to me.
 
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ToonArmy1892 said:
No because i wasn't on about anyone specific, people in the gallowgate booed after we drew with Bournemouth in the league ffs, we all know they are there.
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I see it's just ive been experiencing the old I'm happy with everything anyway phenomenon when someone has lost the track of debate quite a lot recently.

The suggestion is that I'm not happy with things because I'm saying something they don't like the idea of.

In actual fact they're happy now, but they're not happy with the idea newcastle aren't going to maintain their position, so they assume I'm not either and out comes the I'm happy you're not phenomenon.

I'm happy with whatever tbh I just don't think they'll finish top 4 or win on the 26th...

The win on the 26th to me seems most likely... far easier than finishing top 4 over still nion half a season to to go .

I honestly couldn't give a **** about top 4 . The pot is what I desire.... both ideally though.
 
Pretty sure every other NUFC fan could give a **** about top 4 mate, it doesn't have to be one or the other you know.
 
Charlie Dogscock said:
Doing it, as in being successful and not dropping off.

I've never said top 4 was inevitable, that's what my prediction would be right now, but in no way do I think it's inevitable.

Finishing 10th would be nothing but positive? Maybe that could have been a view at the start of the season, but to finish 10th from being in the position we are now would be a massive disappointment to me.
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That just is my view mate .. 10th would be great still

Like I say both are fine :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
Rex Kramer said:
I see it's just ive been experiencing the old I'm happy with everything anyway phenomenon when someone has lost the track of debate quite a lot recently.

The suggestion is that I'm not happy with things because I'm saying something they don't like the idea of.

In actual fact they're happy now, but they're not happy with the idea newcastle aren't going to maintain their position, so they assume I'm not either and out comes the I'm happy you're not phenomenon.

I'm happy with whatever tbh I just don't think they'll finish top 4 or win on the 26th...

The win on the 26th to me seems most likely... far easier than finishing top 4 over still nion half a season to to go .

I honestly couldn't give a **** about top 4 . The pot is what I desire.... both ideally though.
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I agree winning the cup overrides anything, and tbh if we won that, I wouldn't mind the league form going to ****, as it would be a fair trade of.

But right now I can see this team maintaining the form, it's a very strong squad and lots of teams underrate us.
 
ToonArmy1892 said:
Pretty sure every other NUFC fan could give a **** about top 4 mate, it doesn't have to be one or the other you know.
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I doubt every fan is pinning all their hopes on top 4 this 1st season with the new owners .

I said both ideally mate though tbf...last paragraph
 
Rex Kramer said:
I doubt every fan is pinning all their hopes on top 4 this 1st season with the new owners .

I said both ideally mate though tbf...last paragraph
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No one said pinning their hopes on it, but we'd still rather finish top 4 and win the cup.

This one or the other business does my head in, we want to win every game and that's that.
 
Charlie Dogscock said:
I agree winning the cup overrides anything, and tbh if we won that, I wouldn't mind the league form going to ****, as it would be a fair trade of.

But right now I can see this team maintaining the form, it's a very strong squad and lots of teams underrate us.
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That's fair enough we actually agree this is the thing I'm finding odd.

All I'm saying is I'm not that arsed about top 4 and whatever happens is great now .

I'm just not convinced they're in a dip and think that they might just not good enough over a full season to maintain top 4 form because the last month hasn't been top 4 form.

I'll need to see actual evidence they're capable of winning games again.
 
Rex Kramer said:
That's fair enough we actually agree this is the thing I'm finding odd.

All I'm saying is I'm not that arsed about top 4 and whatever happens is great now .

I'm just not convinced they're in a dip and that they're just not good enough over a full season to maintain top 4 form because the last month hasn't been.

I'll need to see actual evidence they're capable of winning games again.
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I think something of a come down was always inevitable after that run we were on - we won 8 and drew 1 from 9! I'm just glad it's something we're regarding as a dip rather than a crash, and something I can definitely see us improving on.
 
What the hell does "not arsed about top 4 mean", would you rather Spurs or someone else got it instead of us like?

And that's not me expecting anything, but i'm deffo "arsed" about trying to finish top 4 even if we don't quite.
 
ToonArmy1892 said:
10th now would be a disappointment, it's silly to say it would be positive, you are also allowed to change expectations according to how the season is progressing.
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You also are allowed not to and neither should be classed as silly because it's how they feel .

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