Bournemouth FFP fine

[originallambrettaman]

Yes its all bulshit aint it.
Doesnt Man City owner partly own Etihad Airways so making the Stadium and shirt sponsorship just basically ploughing his own money in???

He completely owns the airline, though it's not against the rules for the owner to sponsor his own club's stadium, King Power do it, Ashley tried to make St James' the Sports Direct stadium and Stoke will be playing at the Bet365 Stadium next season. The issue comes if it's obvious that you're flouting the fair play rules, so the rules state that sponsorship deals should not be significantly different to other clubs deals, though they're very vague rules.

 

[DMD]

Yes its all bulshit aint it.
Doesnt Man City owner partly own Etihad Airways so making the Stadium and shirt sponsorship just basically ploughing his own money in???

I love the fact that one translation of Etihad is United.

I couldn't give a **** if it's not strictly true, I'm sticking to that version.

 

[Chilton's Hundreds]

He completely owns the airline, though it's not against the rules for the owner to sponsor his own club's stadium, King Power do it, Ashley tried to make St James' the Sports Direct stadium and Stoke will be playing at the Bet365 Stadium next season. The issue comes if it's obvious that you're flouting the fair play rules, so the rules state that sponsorship deals should not be significantly different to other clubs deals, though they're very vague rules.

But by what method is it decided if a deal is significantly different ?

If Man U sold the naming rights to Old Trafford it'd be worth hundreds of millions.

But that doesn't set the 'going rate' as it were because they're the biggest club in England.

It's a very grey area.

 

[Edelman]

He completely owns the airline, though it's not against the rules for the owner to sponsor his own club's stadium, King Power do it, Ashley tried to make St James' the Sports Direct stadium and Stoke will be playing at the Bet365 Stadium next season. The issue comes if it's obvious that you're flouting the fair play rules, so the rules state that sponsorship deals should not be significantly different to other clubs deals, though they're very vague rules.

" FLOUTING THE RULES "
They clearly are bending the rules to suit in many cases without breaking them.

 

[spesupersydera]

I thought so long as an owner gave* the money to a club, rather than loaned it, then that money didn't go against FFP rules?

* "Gave" as in a situation of a genuine gift having been given instead of what Allam did.

Same as me, that's what you would think, it's their/your money to spend as they/you please ....... oh no it isn't, under the original (ludicrous) FFP rules owners couldn't give their club money, which is why they took so long to roll it out to the top leagues of each country, the rules now have been watered down to such an extent the really wealthy clubs can pretty much do as they please.

 

[Cortez91]

I admit to not being across all the detail on FFP that some clearly are on here, but just noted that Bournemouth have been find about 7.5 mn for breaching the rules last year. Presumably these breaches helped them into the Premier League and all it provides. Makes the 'brave little Bournemouth' story we are all supposed to swallow stick in the throat.
Isn't is a bit like saying to a bank robber whose just bought a small island in the Caribbean with his ill gotten gains, 'never mind old chap , we admire your enterprise and you can keep the island of course. Just slip us £5 million back and we'll say no more about it?'

It was known at time of the promotion that they had broken FFP guidelines/rules. The media love in with the story wasn't ever about Bournemouth - usually always about Howe.

 

[RicardoHCAFC]

But by what method is it decided if a deal is significantly different ?

If Man U sold the naming rights to Old Trafford it'd be worth hundreds of millions.

But that doesn't set the 'going rate' as it were because they're the biggest club in England.

It's a very grey area.

By looking at deals done by clubs with a similar status. If we owned ours to sell them they'd look to compare us to clubs like Bolton and Bournemouth who both did deals in this division. If Man City do it they'd look to other latter stage CL clubs like PSG, Real Madrid, and Arsenal, possibly extending to other PL sides if they're out of line with CL sides but it can be shown it's typical for a PL club.