Big Fraser

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Clean sheets are a reflection of the defence as a whole rather than the goalkeepers performance IMO. Saves to shots ratio is probably more of an accurate guide to how well the goalie is doing. Big Fraser didn't have that many shots to save against Watford, WBA, Man U and West Ham but made up for that in the Arsenal game alone.
It wasn't too long ago (in his Saints career) that opinion on here was split as to how good Fraser was. Some had reservations about his allround game and even though I didn't comment at the time, I was among them. There's no doubting his reflexes, positioning and handling are all top notch but some questioned that his slowness off the line for one thing, was a possible weakness.
I love not conceding and it's great to have him back in goal, particularly after such a serious injury but I think he still has aspects of his game to improve on, especially if he wants to be considered England's No1.
 
It's Only A Game said:
Clean sheets are a reflection of the defence as a whole rather than the goalkeepers performance IMO. Saves to shots ratio is probably more of an accurate guide to how well the goalie is doing. Big Fraser didn't have that many shots to save against Watford, WBA, Man U and West Ham but made up for that in the Arsenal game alone.
It wasn't too long ago (in his Saints career) that opinion on here was split as to how good Fraser was. Some had reservations about his allround game and even though I didn't comment at the time, I was among them. There's no doubting his reflexes, positioning and handling are all top notch but some questioned that his slowness off the line for one thing, was a possible weakness.
I love not conceding and it's great to have him back in goal, particularly after such a serious injury but I think he still has aspects of his game to improve on, especially if he wants to be considered England's No1.
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There aren't many players who couldn't improve in some aspect. There is a big difference in realising that someone can improve and giving them a bit of a bashing. Fraser got a bit of that on here before.

Shots to save ratio only tells you how well the keeper is doing at shot stopping. It tells you nothing about how well he handles crosses, how well he distributes the ball, how well he organises his defence.

These discussions often come down to individual people's outlook in general. Some people need to see the slightly more negative view on things.
 
fatletiss said:
Shots to save ratio only tells you how well the keeper is doing at shot stopping. It tells you nothing about how well he handles crosses, how well he distributes the ball, how well he organises his defence.
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These are all particularly good points.

Even shots to saves ratio can have some variance for both 'luck' and 'style of play' considerations at the end of the season. One goalie may have to face more one on ones from close range than another for example, which is dependent on how a team sets themselves up.
 
I suspect that when Stekelenburg was in goal we allowed a similar number of shots but they tended to be closer to the goal. I'm sure we conceded a few tap ins earlier in the season but I don't think that's looked like happening since Forster returned. I think some sites collect stats on that so someone could check in theory. I'm afraid I can't be bothered.
 
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