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Typical_Juan said:
Sorry boss, forgot the rules, let me change it.

****ing referees are all the same, as soon as they wake up they stab pictures of Sunderland players in the face with knives to make themselves feel better.

There was one referee blaming his diarrhoea on John O'Shea in 1994 when O'Shea gave him a chip and ever since then he's been setting fire to his Xbox whenever Sunderland are playing his team.

Then there's two hundred other refs who have it in for all of the players, they get together in their little referee costumes in Aldi car park in Doncaster and set fire to little scare crows they've made to look like Lee Cattermole and Seb Larsson.

Kill all the refs and let Niall Quinn ref our games FFS!
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Tesco's actually. Other than that, everything else was factually correct :emoticon-0138-think
 
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Typical_Juan said:
I think there's possibly something in it you know, you're not a fashionable side or a title challenger so it seems it might just be easier to deny you certain decisions, it's only Sunderland after all, **** 'em.

I think some people on here might tend to take it a bit too far, adopting victim mentality when your players are responsible for the majority of your defeats, it can be seen as a little bitter.

I think it's worth considering though that any team down the bottom doesn't play with freedom to express themselves, they play with frustration and sometimes that encourages self-pity. You end up in a vicious circle, over analysing every decision because you're looking for ways to explain why you can't buy 3 points.

Fact is, if that happened to you and you were in 8th position, with nowt to play for in April, many of you'd be saying "It's football, referees make mistakes, we move on".

You have to make your own luck, it starts with stability and having good squads, two things you're struggling (yet trying very hard) to put right.
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All that matters to me is it was a very very poor decision. Not going to say they've got it in for us. Catts should have been booked along with 4 WBA players which included what should have been a 2nd yellow for Dawson. They were all cynical fouls designed to halt a break, all stone wall yellows none booked including Catts. I don't think refs have it in for us I just think the standard is very very poor. Bout time they were stripped of their professional status if they drop below a certain standard. A review comity needs setting up who judge performances with a scoring system and refs who drop below the standard are relegated. Lets give the young ref in league two who's shown promise the chance to climb the leagues of the back of good performances. Shake up need, it's not just us, Refs are a liability left right and centre. Now with the money involved there's so much more stake. Bout time steps were taking to maintain a high standard of officiating.
 
Big Funk Allardyce said:
All that matters to me is it was a very very poor decision. Not going to say they've got it in for us. Catts should have been booked along with 4 WBA players which included what should have been a 2nd yellow for Dawson. They were all cynical fouls designed to halt a break, all stone wall yellows none booked including Catts. I don't think refs have it in for us I just think the standard is very very poor. Bout time they were stripped of their professional status if they drop below a certain standard. A review comity needs setting up who judge performances with a scoring system and refs who drop below the standard are relegated. Lets give the young ref in league two who's shown promise the chance to climb the leagues of the back of good performances. Shake up need, it's not just us, Refs are a liability left right and centre. Now with the money involved there's so much more stake. Bout time steps were taking to maintain a high standard of officiating.
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You're right bro. Too many lazy performances by the officials.

Nobody can give a good enough reason to not have vid tech so by default I'll just assume it's corruption and Russian gangs calling the shots <ok>
 
Stoke just got away with a stone wall red card keeper went in hard off the floor studs up, nothing.

Swansea should be livid.
 
Typical_Juan said:
You're right bro. Too many lazy performances by the officials.

Nobody can give a good enough reason to not have vid tech so by default I'll just assume it's corruption and Russian gangs calling the shots <ok>
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It's a wild theory fella but not impossible. With the betting markets available these days, the deterioration in the assistants in particular have been very telling. Not big decisions, but blatant errors on simple things like throw ins and corners seems to have increased. Unless I'm just scrutinizing closer now and it's always gone on.
 
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Big Funk Allardyce said:
They're bad for Welsh football mate, no doubt about it. Cardiff too.
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That fan who was on here week ago telling me the world is in awe of Swansea <laugh>

Stoke are absolutely bossing this game at the Liberty shed.

Shelvey has tried a couple of long range efforts as well, of course, nowhere near, of course!
 
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cumbrianmackem said:
It's not just top refs though is it, yesterday I went to support my granddaughter play in her under 13 girls league in Kendal, it was a round robin day when the kids played each other twice so four games of 12 minutes each, it's great to see loads of young kids getting exercise and trying their hearts out, the girls were leading 2-1 in their last game (all the games were reffed by a thirteen year old girl who happened to play for the Kendal team) when their defender clearly heads the ball out for a corner which the ref gives. The girls all go forward all bar one for the corner kick when the ref changes her mind and with the ball in the hands of their goalie and gives a goal kick instead, the keeper launches it long and they go through to score just in time for the ref too blow full time, the granddaughter and her mates were absolutely gutted, We complained to the other teams coach and she said (the ref) was trying her chest and we shouldn't get on at her.

I know it sounds petty but those kids tried their hearts out only to be robbed by s p1ss poor bit of refereeing, it didn't matter to them that the ref was trying her best, I suppose we have to accept that Mr Atkinson was also trying his best, however often he gets it Wong.
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I used to be local league referee and it was really obvious to me how I could decide who was going to win the game- that's why refs need to be so objective - you owe it to both teams and supporters unfortunately seems over regulation and officialdom are taking away commonsense refereeing - - plus money - a referee does not get better by being paid obscene money - they are in it to allow football matches to go ahead and supposed love of game - money is another root of cause of corruption. At local league level - human error by often inexperienced referees - most were fair when I refereed & of course many were learning their trade - not an excuse just a reason for frustrations all round - Speed of play in professional level is not an excuse - body language and on field atmosphere/tension is a pointer.to decisions.
Technology should now be used for big decisions but in general professional referees do not have such an excuse for atrocious decisions - I feel hidden agendas come into play !!
 
Should Swansea be punished?

They showed unfair footage on their big screen at the stadium last night which included a replay of Jack Butland's lunge which in fairness, should have probably been a straight red card.

It's illegal under Premier League rules to show live footage or replays which attempts to bring into question the validity of an official's decision.

Swansea were clearly attempting to influence the referee or at least make him realise his mistake.

I for one, would like to see Swansea punished for this, although I'm all for Vid Tech, I think every club needs to play by the rules, they can't be exempt because they were the victim of a bad decision - a ban from screening anything inside the ground for the rest of the season?
 
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Typical_Juan said:
Should Swansea be punished?

They showed unfair footage on their big screen at the stadium last night which included a replay of Jack Butland's lunge which in fairness, should have probably been a straight red card.

It's illegal under Premier League rules to show live footage or replays which attempts to bring into question the validity of an official's decision.

Swansea were clearly attempting to influence the referee or at least make him realise his mistake.

I for one, would like to see Swansea punished for this, although I'm all for Vid Tech, I think every club needs to play by the rules, they can't be exempt because they were the victim of a bad decision - a ban from screening anything inside the ground for the rest of the season?
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If there`s a rule covering it then there has to be a punishment for breaking it. What that is though I`ve no idea. Bound to be in the spiel somewhere surely?
 
grandpops said:
If there`s a rule covering it then there has to be a punishment for breaking it. What that is though I`ve no idea. Bound to be in the spiel somewhere surely?
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Kicked out of the league, with immediate effect.

**** off back to the valleys.

That's the exact terminology written in the FA handbook.
 
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