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Castro's Coffin said:
Don't have much of a sense of proportion bracketing the ones you mention with the mass murdering communists and Hitler,do you? Pinochet was only responsible for 30,000 deaths comapred to the millions of victims of the one I mentioned. Even Bush was only responsible for a relative handful of deaha in comparison.
As for Nixon, I quote "Although Nixon initially escalated America's involvement in the Vietnam War, he subsequently ended U.S. involvement by 1973. Nixon's visit to the People's Republic of China in 1972 opened diplomatic relations between the two nations, and he initiated détente and the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with the Soviet Union the same year. Domestically, his administration generally embraced policies that transferred power from Washington to the states. Among other things, he launched initiatives to fight cancer and illegal drugs, imposed wage and price controls, enforced desegregation of Southern schools, implemented environmental reforms, and introduced legislation to reform healthcare and welfare. " which,again,is better ghan the ones I mentioned and not necessarily a reason for eternal damnation.
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Apart from Vietnam Nixon escalated the war into neighbouring Cambodia and dropped more bombs on that country than were dropped on Dresden in WW2. His decimation of Cambodia also allowed the murderous Pol Pot regime to take over.

LBJ gave US forces carte blanche to accelerate the Vietnam war after JFK's assassination.
This was a policy which his murdered predecessor completely disagreed with and resulted in years of killing and atrocities.

Pinochet tortured and killed thousands of his own people and Baby Bush invaded Iraq on the pretext that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9-11 even though his own expert advisors told him categorically he wasn't.

The thing I don't understand is you saying Pinochet wouldn't deserve to be damned because he killed less than Hitler and Stalin - Is there a degree of murder or torture that is acceptable?

As for Thatcher she ignored early warnings from her own intelligence that the Argies were going to invade the Falklands. She could have prevented the invasion but instead she allowed it to happen and then launched the task force. Her popularity rating was rock-bottom before the war but sky-high afterwards when she won the election at a canter....
 
Craig in Nottingham said:
Apart from Vietnam Nixon escalated the war into neighbouring Cambodia and dropped more bombs on that country than were dropped on Dresden in WW2. His decimation of Cambodia also allowed the murderous Pol Pot regime to take over.

LBJ gave US forces carte blanche to accelerate the Vietnam war after JFK's assassination.
This was a policy which his murdered predecessor completely disagreed with and resulted in years of killing and atrocities.

Pinochet tortured and killed thousands of his own people and Baby Bush invaded Iraq on the pretext that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9-11 even though his own expert advisors told him categorically he wasn't.

The thing I don't understand is you saying Pinochet wouldn't deserve to be damned because he killed less than Hitler and Stalin - Is there a degree of murder or torture that is acceptable?

As for Thatcher she ignored early warnings from her own intelligence that the Argies were going to invade the Falklands. She could have prevented the invasion but instead she allowed it to happen and then launched the task force. Her popularity rating was rock-bottom before the war but sky-high afterwards when she won the election at a canter....
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Is this another Commie Mass murderers v Righty Mass Murderers pissing contest?

Not again please.....
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
That's where I was

Thought it might be some cheap site like they do on the trains
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There's the minicruise offer. £75 for two. Or you can go as foot passengers for £55.50 for two, add £36 for transfers to Amsterdam.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
That's where I was

Thought it might be some cheap site like they do on the trains
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Heard the annual ad on local radio this week- not sure of start date.

Think the website doesn't like to advise in advance so people don't delay their trips to take advantage .

I went in early November last year at cheap rate.

Maybe someone on here can advise if there is another local way to book it?
 
Hull City AFC (Macca's) said:
Big admirer of the Belgium team, been following them for a while. Probably my 'second team' internationally. (I am actually part Belgian, so I do have a very slight excuse)

I think Belgium can win the Euros in 2016. By then the best players will be beginning to reach their peaks, and they'll be unbelievably good. Belgium have been good for a few years tbf, they've just crept under the radar. They were unlucky to miss out on the Euros last year.
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**** off and support Belgium then.
 
Castro's Coffin said:
Ashes don't rot. You probably don't realise, not being the brightest.

Whistle smileys don't make crap posts any better, either.
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Ashes , or "Ashes" do rot as for the most part its ground or pulverised bone fragments , not all belonging to the same deceased unfortunately but these particles to rot / decay.
 
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