Off Topic Barcelona Attack

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sb_73 said:
Why the **** are you having a go at Corbyn (by all means, he's a ****er) when he doesn't, thankfully, run the government? What do you want May, Rudd etc to do? Most of the governments in Europe are right/centre right, surely they can deal with radical Islam better than namby pamby uber PC bed wetting left wingers? Only Italy has a vaguely left wing government of the major countries. Oh and it has the lowest number of terrorist attacks (I don't think this has much to do with the government to be honest, it has a lot to do with their lack of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants waiting to be radicalised, their use of the law and willingness to deport people). The Italo- Moroccan London Bridge attacker was met at the airport whenever he went to Bologna and visited twice a day by police. He wasn't a threat according to British security services.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...en-spared-mass-terror-attacks-in-recent-years
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I'm having a go at Corbyn because according to him and his supporters, he's a government in waiting, so we need to know what the nature of his government would be like. Furthermore, although he's not in national government, Labour controls councils up north where most of the Islamic *****phile problems are occurring.

In Europe now, a right wing government is the left wing government of the Sixties. Merkel, for instance, is effectively a liberal where immigration is concerned. There are some exceptions in the East, eg Hungary.

Can't give you an answer on Italy, but given that even placid Finland has suffered from Islamist attacks, it can only be a matter of time.

Police in Marseilles saying now that the attack may not be terrorist related.
 
GoldhawkRd said:
I'm having a go at Corbyn because according to him and his supporters, he's a government in waiting, so we need to know what the nature of his government would be like. Furthermore, although he's not in national government, Labour controls councils up north where most of the Islamic *****phile problems are occurring.

In Europe now, a right wing government is the left wing government of the Sixties. Merkel, for instance, is effectively a liberal where immigration is concerned. There are some exceptions in the East, eg Hungary.

Can't give you an answer on Italy, but given that even placid Finland has suffered from Islamist attacks, it can only be a matter of time.

Police in Marseilles saying now that the attack may not be terrorist related.
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Balls, hold the people you voted for to account ffs.
 
sb_73 said:
Ok, from everything you post it's either Tory or UKIP. Hold your elected government to account.
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Of course we should hold the elected government to account at national level. I'm happy to do that - hence my comment earlier today about the futility of making van hire more difficult. As you know, unlike you, I'm content with the way the big issue - Brexit - is being handled at present. Immigration has been handled poorly in the past, most recently by May as Home Secretary. Once we have control of our borders, there will be a big onus on government.

I like that we are becoming more proactive on Brexit. This will flush out EU inflexibility - and that's when things will get interesting.
 
GoldhawkRd said:
Of course we should hold the elected government to account at national level. I'm happy to do that - hence my comment earlier today about the futility of making van hire more difficult. As you know, unlike you, I'm content with the way the big issue - Brexit - is being handled at present. Immigration has been handled poorly in the past, most recently by May as Home Secretary. Once we have control of our borders, there will be a big onus on government.

I like that we are becoming more proactive on Brexit. This will flush out EU inflexibility - and that's when things will get interesting.
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I thought this thread was about Islamic terrorism. There is only one party that has the power to do this to reduce the threat to us at the moment. Any sense of what it is doing?
 
sb_73 said:
I thought this thread was about Islamic terrorism. There is only one party that has the power to do this to reduce the threat to us at the moment. Any sense of what it is doing?
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The Prevent strategy seems perfectly logical, although some from the Muslim community now feel picked on, the petals.
 
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