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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Des Head, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. Des Head

    Des Head Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I've only just found out what BAME means. Maybe I'm stupid, maybe I'm just naive, but isn't lumping everybody who isn't white into one group massively offensive? Isn't legally obliging every club to interview one BAME candidate unbelievably racist? Are we interviewing female applicants? Or disabled dudes? Or bald guys?

    I can't imagine being black, because I'm not, and I'm sure that thanks to plenty of ****s in the western world it's more difficult than I could possibly imagine, but I can't imagine being happy that I was interviewed just because I tick a box. That would surely feel proper ****, and you're not guaranteed a job, just a ****ing chat.

    Am I just an idiot or is nobody free to get the most fit person for the job, irregardless* of skin colour, sexuality or follicles?

    Thoughts? Other than I'm a contentious white bald man?

    *I know that's not really a word, Castro
     
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  2. Quill

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    This thread won't last long.
     
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  3. City Man

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    Was wondering when someone would start the BAME blame game
     
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  4. Des Head

    Des Head Well-Known Member

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    If you'd said the BAME game. I would have liked that.
     
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    You are all 3.
     
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  6. Des Head

    Des Head Well-Known Member

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    **** me, I was only going for two.
     
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  7. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

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    Make that 4 then.
     
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  8. Gone For A Walk

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    You are not an idiot.
    Just another example that the world has gone mad.
    I despair.
     
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  9. Des Head

    Des Head Well-Known Member

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    If I understand this correctly, you're accusing me of being a hairy black gay guy.

    I'm not black.
     
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  10. Ron Burguvdy

    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

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    If you don't know I can't tell you ...
     
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  11. Des Head

    Des Head Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the world's gome mad
    We've not gone mad yet, but we may be on the way.

    I have no issue with vacancies being open to everyone. I don't see why people should be excluded, or included, before they've proved their worth.

    If Sol Campbell was our manager next season, and he was ****, it wouldn't be because he was black. If we got promoted, it wouldn't be because he was black.
     
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  12. look_back_in_amber

    look_back_in_amber Well-Known Member

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    Million % agree. The world’s gone ****ing mad.
     
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  13. Des Head

    Des Head Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, standard response to a racist dude. I ain't, so add to the discussion instead.
     
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  14. Ron Burguvdy

    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

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    It's not obligated to give the job, just ' balances ' out (statistically) when looking at managers with similar qualifications and experiences , it was found that BME managers are less likely to be short listed / interviewed. My other comment was just sarcasm
     
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    The game should be looking at why they’re statistically less likely to be shortlisted rather than forcing at least one person to be shortlisted - it doesn’t solve the problem in the least bit.
     
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  16. Ron Burguvdy

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    I suspect the reason would be found to be ' institutional racism', so rather than change / challenge (attitude's) individuals , change behaviours hoping attitude's follow
     
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  17. Edelman

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    Good points !.
    You see a lot more Black American coaches in NFL and NBA over in America !
    Take a look at European football and there isn't many at all !
    I am surprised that we don't have more over here with the amount of different Nationalities we have playing here !!
     
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  18. Cortez91

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    But clubs will just have an extra name on the shortlist. It’ll have very little impact this way.
     
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  19. Ron Burguvdy

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    Behavioural change does often take a long time to change culture (seat belts in cars) though does not always work (mobiles whilst driving) even with carrots or sticks. I wonder what you would suggest would help?
     
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  20. Cortez91

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    If only it were that simple to help
     
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