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With Derby in freefall is Nigel Cloughs position under threat and will Ayala still want to go there on loan? Any thoughts?
 
It doesn't sound like he wants to go there with Clough saying he has to persuade him to go and the 'I'd rather play in Liverpool's reserves comment' he supposedly made. Just depends whether we can build our relationship back up with Liverpool before he gets back to fitness as it looks like he will go somewhere when the loan window re-opens
 
It was the HDM that said Ayala didn't want to go to Derby and had stated he'd rather play is the Liverpool ressies.

Apparently, he wants to come back to us, but Liverpool won't let him, due to the Hodgson rant.
 
Liverpool must think we're idiots when it comes to injury's.We wanted the best for Ayala and they don't like any one else treating their players.So what else had gone on with WoyWoy?
 
Is it just me or does no one else see the obvious problem with bringing Ayala back? Where are gonna play him? And who for? Drop gerrard or Chester? I can't see that happening. Dawson isn't gonna get dropped now he is captain allowing Chester to left back to make room for Ayala. Really don't see him coming back to sit on the bench simply because he's to good to be sat with the likes of macshane.
 
I suspect Roy was a bit stressed at the time he said what he did. I'm very surprised they are still taking this view though, it seems like cutting off their nose to spite their face. If Ayala wants to come to Hull, why not let him? He will get game time and build confidence in a positive environment. Our medical staff are not idiots. Liverpool can always set some special conditions if they really want. It's a bit baffling really.
 
Tigerwill85 said:
Is it just me or does no one else see the obvious problem with bringing Ayala back? Where are gonna play him? And who for? Drop gerrard or Chester? I can't see that happening. Dawson isn't gonna get dropped now he is captain allowing Chester to left back to make room for Ayala. Really don't see him coming back to sit on the bench simply because he's to good to be sat with the likes of macshane.
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That's a good point - but I think Ayala would slot in beside Gerrard. Chester would be dropped initially, but it may not take long for him to displace Dawson or come in due to an injury. I think NP has to go for the best players he can and then worry about how to organise things afterwards. Chester is only young after all.
 
He is young but so is ayala, granted ayala's distribution is better but really Chester hasnt put a foot wrong. It would be a very hard call to drop him for Ayala. Obviously we want the best players and we want them in depth but with the squad in what appears to be quite harmonic state and relations with Liverpool delicate is it wise to risk disturbing either further? Perhaps cover of a different name will be looked at. Don't get me wrong by the way, I think Ayala is class and would love to see him at the Kc and even more as a permanent unlikely as it may be.
 
But why? Dawson has just had his best two games of the season against two of the best wingers in the div in routledge and snodgrass, and although he's not had the best of seasons against qpr and Leeds I thought he was brilliant
 
It looks like we won't get him anyway, but if he does come then NP will have a delicate decision to make. I like OLMs suggestion longer term, but the captaincy debate will obviously need settling too.
 
Tigerwill85 said:
He is young but so is ayala, granted ayala's distribution is better but really Chester hasnt put a foot wrong. It would be a very hard call to drop him for Ayala. Obviously we want the best players and we want them in depth but with the squad in what appears to be quite harmonic state and relations with Liverpool delicate is it wise to risk disturbing either further? Perhaps cover of a different name will be looked at. Don't get me wrong by the way, I think Ayala is class and would love to see him at the Kc and even more as a permanent unlikely as it may be.
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Totally agree with that.

Chester is OUR player now. Ayala is a loan player. Why would we drop a new signing in preference for a loan, especially when Chester is playing so well.

Gerrard will be bought at the end of the season and will be made Team Captain with NickyB Club Captain so I cannot see him being dropped for Ayala, again he is playing very well anyway.

Ayala's injury was unfortunate and Liverpool are just pissed about him being injured while with us. McShane is ideal AS COVER even though his wages point to him not being with us beyond the Summer. Regarding Ayala, time to move on.

Now Mannone is a different matter, I reckon we will make a concerted effort to sign him full-time. If that were not the case why would we get him back on loan whilst injured? Doesn't make sense, especially when Guzan is doing a fair job anyway.
 
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