Off Topic Are parents to blame

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  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
  • 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
  • 85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
  • 80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
  • 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracurricular activities.
  • 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.
30 years of feminism has reduced the role of a man in the family to nothing but some "toxic effect"
Those stats are boys and girls, the effects are more pronounced if only boys are factored

It's not like I am condemning women, far from it, but boys need fathers to take a firm grip on raising them to be men, they need to release the apron strings at 6 or 7 at the latest (on average)
 
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  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
  • 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
  • 85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
  • 80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
  • 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracurricular activities.
  • 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.
30 years of feminism has reduced the role of a man in the family to nothing but some "toxic effect"
Those stats are boys and girls, the effects are more pronounced if only boys are factored

It's not like I am condemning women, far from it, but boys need fathers to take a firm grip on raising them to be men, they need to release the apron strings at 6 or 7 at the latest (on average)
You've failed to demonstrate that any of those figures are even vaguely related to feminism.
The blogs that a search connects them to suggest a lack of religion, men failing to take up their parental responsibilities and various other reasons.
What made you blame feminism?
 
"Aren't around" doesn't necessarily mean left the home, it can mean away working all of the time for extended periods, lack of interest in the day to day life of your son.

What happens to boys when their fathers aren’t around?
https://theconversation.com/what-happens-to-boys-when-their-fathers-arent-around-6062

"Daughters in the industrialised world whose fathers are absent do worse in school, start menstruating earlier and become mothers at younger ages than similar girls from two-parent families. Evolutionary biology explains these as effects of a shortened life expectancy. Instead of taking their time to mature, learn and wait for the right mate and conditions to become mothers, they get started earlier because the future doesn’t look so bright. The response to important environmental cues (father absence) is an evolved adaptation to the changed conditions in which she is growing up."

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When a boy’s natural father is absent, he becomes more likely to have a child by the age of 23. This effect was strongest in boys whose father were absent by the time the boy turned seven, 44 percent of whom had sired at least one child of their own by the age of 23 (compared with 37 percent of boys from two-parent families).

But boys who did not reside with their fathers matured (measured as voice breaking) slightly later, with the strongest effect being in boys whose fathers were present until the boys were 11, but absent by the age of 16."

Didn't know that myself <yikes> I did say by 6 or 7, dads are needed to turn them into responsible men

Father absence predicts age at sexual maturity and reproductive timing in British men
http://www.academia.edu/1037329/Fat...turity_and_reproductive_timing_in_British_men

Men, raise your boys, don't take a passing interest, take a vested interest, show them how to be a man, and being a man doesn't mean being a mouthy ****, or an asshole, obviously. It means taking responsibility for yourself and others, something sorely lacking today

PNP, I will never reply to your sophistry again, even when faced with hard facts, you continue to double down on your stupidity. So don't bother <ok>
 
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"Aren't around" doesn't necessarily mean left the home, it can mean away working all of the time for extended periods, lack of interest in the day to day life of your son.

What happens to boys when their fathers aren’t around?
https://theconversation.com/what-happens-to-boys-when-their-fathers-arent-around-6062

"Daughters in the industrialised world whose fathers are absent do worse in school, start menstruating earlier and become mothers at younger ages than similar girls from two-parent families. Evolutionary biology explains these as effects of a shortened life expectancy. Instead of taking their time to mature, learn and wait for the right mate and conditions to become mothers, they get started earlier because the future doesn’t look so bright. The response to important environmental cues (father absence) is an evolved adaptation to the changed conditions in which she is growing up."

Didn't know that myself <yikes>

Father absence predicts age at sexual maturity and reproductive timing in British men
http://www.academia.edu/1037329/Fat...turity_and_reproductive_timing_in_British_men

Men, raise your boys, don't take a passing interest, take a vested interest, show them how to be a man, and being a man doesn't mean being a mouthy ****, or an asshole, obviously. It means taking responsibility for yourself and others, something sorely lacking today

PNP, I will never reply to your sophistry again, even when faced with hard facts, you continue to double down on your stupidity. So don't bother <ok>
<laugh> Another alt-right fruitcake who can't handle having his lunacy challenged. Standard.
 
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  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
  • 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
  • 85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
  • 80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
  • 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracurricular activities.
  • 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.
30 years of feminism has reduced the role of a man in the family to nothing but some "toxic effect"
Those stats are boys and girls, the effects are more pronounced if only boys are factored

It's not like I am condemning women, far from it, but boys need fathers to take a firm grip on raising them to be men, they need to release the apron strings at 6 or 7 at the latest (on average)
Interesting that you blame it on 30years of feminism rather than on men not stepping up to their parental responsibilities.

Think a well-balanced adult develops from a child that grows up in a home environment with two parents who are equally invested in their childs development.
 
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Interesting that you blame it on 30years of feminism rather than on men not stepping up to their parental responsibilities.

Think a well-balanced adult develops from a child that grows up in a home environment with two parents who are equally invested in their childs development.

Amen <applause>
 
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Nope, not true.

Throughout time young boys went to work in the fields with their fathers, learned their trades from their fathers, learned to fight with a sword with their fathers, and if they belonged to a house of note, they were sent away as wards to be educated and taught in the marital arts, to be toughened up.

If you were a teen, even only 13, and your father died, you were the head of the house.

I suggest you learn what life was like in 16th century England for a start, then look at Germanic society in Roman times, and Roman history itself.

Women raised babies and very young kids, but once boys became 6 or 7, not so, in general.

It's like you never read a history book. <laugh>
@PISKIE likes bogus history :bandit:

Want an example of modern parallel where men are absent from raising their boys? US Black inner cities, where 75% of families are single moms, and look at the state of those cities, the gangs the crime.. all driven by absent fathers. Unlike Sweden. in those US cities, the parents cannot offload the kid into the care of state paid women in the care/edu system until they are in their late teens, thus producing maladjusted cucks


Interesting thing, a huge number of Finnish and Swedish males grow up into maladjusted men.

There's so much bullshit waffle with this post it's hard to know where to begin.

As has been pointed out to you before, there are plenty of examples throughout history of cultures where women perform what are considered in western cultures to be 'a man's role' and where girls are taught to hunt, hold political office, manage the commerce and make the laws. That's not to say that the men in those cultures don't have a role. It's just that the duties are shared out differently. You should try opening your mind beyond the narrow concepts of western 'masculinity'
 
Actually you sound like you have the perfect life/work balance and situation to spend plenty of quality time with your daughter.

I know I didnt spend enough time with my kids when they were growing up due to work but I am making it up to them now. I visit them both in prison every week.

I'm gonna add a <laugh>

and then hope you were joking .....
 
Actually you sound like you have the perfect life/work balance and situation to spend plenty of quality time with your daughter.

I made a big change to my work/life balance about 5 years ago when I ditched my job to start my own business. I probably earn a 1/4 of what I did back then, but I am richer for it in the most important areas of my life.
 
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I made a big change to my work/life balance about 5 years ago when I ditched my job to start my own business. I probably earn a 1/4 of what I did back then, but I am richer for it in the most important areas of my life.

That could also be on the chances thread. They seem to cross paths
 
IVF has become so successful that the rate of adoptions has suffered, according to a top child advocate.

Nearly three in 10 women aged under 35 who undergo fertility treatment are successful - almost three times as many as when the process was developed in 1978.

Anthony Douglas, the chief executive of the Children and Family Court Advisory and Support Service (Cafcass), told The Daily Telegraph: "IVF used to be around 7% successful and now it's around 30%.

"So as a choice, adoption is competing with lots of other ways of having children."

The number of children in care has increased in England - the figure stood at 72,670 as of March 31 2017 - but the number of adoptions has fallen in recent years to 4,350 in 2017, down from 5,360 in 2015.



He told the paper: "Every child deserves a family to live and grow up in but adoption still takes twice as long as it should, which puts people off."

In England the average time between entry into care and being adopted has fallen from 30 months to 24 months in 2017, according to figures from the Department of Education.
 
Where were the parents, or any adults?

A two-year-old boy has died in hospital - a week after he fell from an upstairs window, according to the Liverpool Echo.

The newspaper says the toddler's death has been confirmed by Merseyside Police.

He was found lying on the pavement with a head injury outside a house in Tuebrook on 17 November, and was taken to hospital in a critical condition.


The boy's relatives reportedly decided to switch off his life support on Friday night.

According to the Echo, he was playing upstairs with other children before the fall.

Earlier this week, Merseyside Police appealed for a woman who came to the aid of the boy in the street to come forward as they tried to establish the full circumstances of the incident.
 
Where were the parents, or any adults?

A two-year-old boy has died in hospital - a week after he fell from an upstairs window, according to the Liverpool Echo.

The newspaper says the toddler's death has been confirmed by Merseyside Police.

He was found lying on the pavement with a head injury outside a house in Tuebrook on 17 November, and was taken to hospital in a critical condition.


The boy's relatives reportedly decided to switch off his life support on Friday night.

According to the Echo, he was playing upstairs with other children before the fall.

Earlier this week, Merseyside Police appealed for a woman who came to the aid of the boy in the street to come forward as they tried to establish the full circumstances of the incident.

The parents were in the garden outside catching whatever items the two year old kid was nicking.
 
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Agree with Bluey...yeah it might be 2018 but when I last checked the order of things was as it was from the beginning of time.

Human beings think they can change the order of things and then call it evolving or advancing or it's the 21st century guise...girls are born with cocks and boys are born with the natural urge to wear frocks...not!

Like I said....if you've got young kids keep an eye on the gender neautral push that is taking place in schools. Last week the teacher said to my niece that she is 'not open minded' because she(my niece) didn't agree with gender neautral clothes because she said 'she's a female and wants to wear female clothes and go into womens shops'

My boy won't be wearing no frock or growing up thinking he's just got a big clit it's not really a dick

People can do what they want but dont tell my son he should be accepting 'neautral' whatever...he's a boy and he will become a man and he will love pussy and right now he plays with plastic guns and Batman toys...I won't be buying him a doll.
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