Off Topic Are parents to blame

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brb said:
I would say that transgender is a mental illness, being careful here with the use of the term MH. But it is in it's own right, and i would be surprised if a transgender person denied it as such. However, it's an illness brought on by parental influences and acceptances, if that makes sense.

I don't agree that homosexuality is a sexual perversion or deviation. I do believe same sexes can and are attracted to one another. Remember we are trapped as our gender from birth, however, maturity defines our affection for another for many reasons, not just sexuality.
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Ok playing DA

What about the homosexual lifestyle?? Deviancy?

Again read an article which spoke about how the notion of same sex experience has existed through out time, the current homosexual model is new or it's evolved into something that doesn't fit past concepts
 
thefanwithnoname said:
Ok playing DA

What about the homosexual lifestyle?? Deviancy?

Again read an article which spoke about how the notion of same sex experience has existed through out time, the current homosexual model is new or it's evolved into something that doesn't fit past concepts
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Homosexual lifestyle, they work, shop, buy a home, sleep in the same bed, and go out the same as a hetrosexual couple don't they?
 
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thefanwithnoname said:
the notion of same sex experience has existed through out time, the current homosexual model is new or it's evolved into something that doesn't fit past concepts
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This is what I've been saying. We can only view the idea of homosexuality through the lens of our own time frame and the societal constructs that come with it. But the fact that people have been having sex with people of their own sex is something that has been happening throughout all cultures through history.
 
PISKIE said:
I don't see why not. Showing affection for your spouse is perfectly normal for kids to see.

Seeing them have sex isn't, regardless of whether they are gay or straight.
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Right.
So perfectly normal kid get adopted by a gay couple {male or female]

So him/her is not going to be affected by the show off affection?
 
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Commachio said:
Right.
So perfectly normal kid get adopted by a gay couple {male or female]

So him/her is not going to be affected by the show off affection?
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Define 'perfectly normal'. If a kid is getting adopted, then it stands that they've probably already had a traumatic childhood.

And if the parents are loving and kind parents to the child, then why would the kid be affected by them showing affection to each other ?
 
brb said:
Homosexual lifestyle, they work, shop, buy a home, sleep in the same bed, and go out the same as a hetrosexual couple don't they?
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More to it than that. So for example those into swinging, bdsm and diaperism do all of the above and at an extreme end so do those with interest in prepubescent children and animals

The sexual element has a lifestyle of it's own.
 
PISKIE said:
Define 'perfectly normal'. If a kid is getting adopted, then it stands that they've probably already had a traumatic childhood.

And if the parents are loving and kind parents to the child, then why would the kid be affected by them showing affection to each other ?
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ffs pisk think about it.
 
Commachio said:
ffs pisk think about it.
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I have. I'm challenging you to tell me in what way a kid would be affected by seeing their parents (either gay or straight) showing affection for each other.

I'd say that most kids being brought up with parents in a same sex relationship (whether adopted or conceived) or a traditional hetrosexual relationship are more likely to feel like they are in a loving family unit if they see their parents showing affection for each other.
 
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thefanwithnoname said:
Ok playing DA

What about the homosexual lifestyle?? Deviancy?

Again read an article which spoke about how the notion of same sex experience has existed through out time, the current homosexual model is new or it's evolved into something that doesn't fit past concepts
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Could you define that for me as I'm not sure what you mean by it.
 
PISKIE said:
I have. I'm challenging you to tell me in what way a kid would be affected by seeing their parents (either gay or straight) showing affection for each other.

I'd say that most kids being brought up with parents in a same sex relationship (whether adopted or conceived) or a traditional hetrosexual relationship are more likely to feel like they are in a loving family unit if they see their parents showing affection for each other.
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Are you serious?

just because someone has been adopted and had a hard life, doesnt mean they are happy to see dad and dad woman/woman kissing and snuggling up on the sofa
 
Commachio said:
Are you serious?

just because someone has been adopted and had a hard life, doesnt mean they are happy to see dad and dad woman/woman kissing and snuggling up on the sofa
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Why do you assume they wouldn't be happy to?

A lot of this is generational imo, in 30 years or so you won't get these conversations.
 
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