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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Commachio, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Well, all aspects of parenting has an effect on the children.

    So you (and comm it seems) are saying that having gay parents has an effect on children, but it's not a negative one.

    I'm not really sure what the issue is then ? Like I've said, being in a loving and supportive family is more important that the parents sexual orientation imo.
     
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  2. Diego

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    Come on mate, they are ****ing imbeciles on there and you know it.
    I have no mates on any board, I post my own opinions.
     
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  3. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah there are, I'd be more worried about GC than anyone who mainly posts here though.

    And you may say that but you really dislike Tobes and Stan so Dull etc. are your mates by proxy.
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Which is the examples I gave and why I disagree or don't agree 100% with that sentiment

    That's the point I made that if social services don't give a child to a couple because of the negative effect it will have on the child based on ethnicity then how can we argue it won't because of sexuality?

    Just to point out I don't see it as negative. These are reasons couple have been denied kids. Although they we're going to look at the ethnicity thing so.may have changed it
     
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  5. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    thats down to them mate. everyone on here has seen loads off pictures of me and the bairn.

    its all i care about really
     
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  6. Diego

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    Never been on it so can't comment.

    I don't dislike anyone, I just find some people tedious when they think of themselves as clever. Each to their own I suppose but it is funny when some speak of "winning" :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Have you got any context/sources for this couple/s denied adoption due to ethnicity?
     
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  8. Diego

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    Fair enough, I know you go on there sometimes so are aware of the childish "pranks" they pull <ok>
     
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  9. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Does that even happen anymore though ?

    I know that most kids up for adoption will attempted to be placed with at least one parent of similar ethnicity, but I don't think adoptive parents are refused because they are a different ethnicity to the child.

    Happy to be corrected if wrong.
     
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    I don't think me and @Commachio passed judgement either way. Simply argued that there will be effects on the child

    As far as I know the research into gay adoption showed that the kids did engage in homosexual behaviour or at least tried it. American research iirc. And it suggested who adopts does impact or effect the kids.

    My other point is that social services turn down hetro couples for all sorts of ( inane imo) reasons. So scrutinisisng gay couples is part for the course and not discrimination.
     
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  11. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    this is a good board,as this one thread has proved.

    Amongst all the the **** their is a diamond...this thread proves there is a lot a diamonds,
     
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    Tbh I was just giving examples I was aware of and I did say to leibh that I know they were looking at that so it may have changed

    But again I will ask the question if one parent must be same ethnicity then how far do we go with gay couples? Should one be same gender? Can men only adopt girls and women only boys?
     
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  14. Commachio

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    Nope never passed judgement either way..

    I'd rather see kid kids in families {gay or not}. but what i did say, it will never always be hunky dory.
     
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    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    One example? So not a widespread issue of something going on then, rather 'this happened once'.

    Not true.
     
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  16. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    As I've said, all parenting will affect the children. That's the nature of parenting. What those effects are are more to do with the parenting style that the parent's sexual orientation.

    Can you post a link to the research that shows that children adopted by gay parents were more likely to engage in homosexual behaviour ? as that sounds highly dubious to me.

    As for social services scrutinising prospective adoptive parents. Rightly so, they should be. But again, sexual orientation isn't the issue, the issue is whether they will provide a loving and secure home for the child.
     
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    Anyone uses a posters kid pics on here in some way i'll ban them, fooking don't care who it is.
     
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    Best just google.it mate. It's a changing field

    However it was a fact,maybe still is, that bme kids were left behind when it came to adoption and not through white folk jot wanting them.but how social services saw the "best thing" for the child. This.included facing racism, bullying etc

    Now most research around gay parents suggests the kids do face the same, albeit not early on (the case for bme is same in say primary school). So they get bullied and homophobia
     
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  20. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Nobody is saying you did pass judgement fella. That's a bit of a strawman argument from Fan. The issue was raised about what effect having gay parents would have on the child. I think the consensus is that it doesn't really matter, as long as the child is in a loving family.

    There are always going to be examples of things going awry. But that's not really down to the parents sexual orientation.
     
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