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I thought Norwich's free kick for their goal was a bit soft.
The Penalty was a definite foul on Giroud, players do it every week and get away with it , but it's still a foul.
Arsenal's 3rd goal was first a foul and then a clear offside, but Podolski's sweet strike made up for it, so the fair score was 3-1 <ok>
 
rannaramshere said:
I tend to like Norwich, particularly because Stephen Fry is the only Norwich fan I know, and the club is therefore much more charismatic.

The first penalty call was not a penalty. It didn't hit your defender's arm.
But the free kick leading to your goal was never a free kick.
There should have been a penalty for the foul on Walcott.
The penalty was a sound one, but it was never a corner in the first place.
The third goal was offside from Walcott.

I think that's a fair break down of the main decisions in the game. Once you look at it like that, it's a 1 or 2 nil win to the Arsenal. I can't say Norwich are hard done by.
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They also have a couple of fit birds supporting them. Myleen Klass and Delia Smith :p
 
Yes I thought there should have been a penalty for the foul on Walcott. TYou simply can't shove a player with your arm like that.

There is a lot of crying over this one, but not too many fans saying that it wasn't a penalty. The argument seems to go that because the referee didn't see it, the linesman who did see it should have pretended not to. Does't make sense to me.
 
andy2402 said:
it was the linesman that gave it from 50 yards away not the referee the referee was 10 yards away and he didn't give it and your players did not appeal for it. this has to be sorted out by the fa total match fixing going on in this league
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Priceless, ****ing priceless!!!
 
ToledoTrumpton said:
Yes I thought there should have been a penalty for the foul on Walcott. TYou simply can't shove a player with your arm like that.

There is a lot of crying over this one, but not too many fans saying that it wasn't a penalty. The argument seems to go that because the referee didn't see it, the linesman who did see it should have pretended not to. Does't make sense to me.
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No. The problem is the guy giving it from so far away without a clear view that they were both grabbing shirts.

As both Hansen and Moyes said on MotD, it was not a penalty. The linesman shouldn't be making that call unless he can see the entire incident. Of course, if he can see the entire thing, then he should give it no problem, but here he didn't.

The fact is, as most pundits have said, Norwich were robbed yesterday by poor officiating - of certainly a point and potentially all three if you consider we lost our heads after the penalty. This happens all the time. It's not your boys fault, you should just enjoy the fact that you get the rub of the green <ok>. It happens all the time to us and we just have to shrug our shoulders and move on. It's a shame because we played really well and ended up looking like we got hammered when that was absolutely not the case.

The real point of the complaints is just how bad the Prem officials are. It's shocking. This is hardly the first time. As you say, there were a couple of borderline incidents that went our way earlier on too, but to constantly have officials making big calls, getting them clearly wrong, and the consequences of them being wrong being the difference between relegation and staying up, or even a CL spot or Europa League, is totally unacceptable. There is too much at stake to have professionals doing a distinctly semi-professional job so often.
 
Canary Rob said:
No. The problem is the guy giving it from so far away without a clear view that they were both grabbing shirts.

As both Hansen and Moyes said on MotD, it was not a penalty. The linesman shouldn't be making that call unless he can see the entire incident. Of course, if he can see the entire thing, then he should give it no problem, but here he didn't.

The fact is, as most pundits have said, Norwich were robbed yesterday by poor officiating - of certainly a point and potentially all three if you consider we lost our heads after the penalty. This happens all the time. It's not your boys fault, you should just enjoy the fact that you get the rub of the green <ok>. It happens all the time to us and we just have to shrug our shoulders and move on. It's a shame because we played really well and ended up looking like we got hammered when that was absolutely not the case.

The real point of the complaints is just how bad the Prem officials are. It's shocking. This is hardly the first time. As you say, there were a couple of borderline incidents that went our way earlier on too, but to constantly have officials making big calls, getting them clearly wrong, and the consequences of them being wrong being the difference between relegation and staying up, or even a CL spot or Europa League, is totally unacceptable. There is too much at stake to have professionals doing a distinctly semi-professional job so often.
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Please explain how almost ripping off a guy's shirt in the box is not a pen? And don't BS me using "<Insert Useless Pundit Here> said so"
 
I love how the press are conveniently staying away from the fact that Walcott should have had a penalty.
 
Isn't it hilarious that every time a Norwich fan brings up the fact that the linesman gave the penalty he gets further away! I mean how can the linesman give it from Finsbury park tube station!
 
Topgun said:
Isn't it hilarious that every time a Norwich fan brings up the fact that the linesman gave the penalty he gets further away! I mean how can the linesman give it from Finsbury park tube station!
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I heard he was at the Watford gap when he gave the pen . . .
 
TheOXOCube:5pur2 said:
Please explain how almost ripping off a guy's shirt in the box is not a pen? And don't BS me using "<Insert Useless Pundit Here> said so"
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Yawn.

Already covered.

Replays show Giroud pulling Kamara's shirt first and continuing to do so. That's why there's any debate at all. If there was no pulling of the shirt from Giroud, everyone would be saying it was an excellent spot from the linesman. I'm not entirely convinced one way or another. All I can say is that, IMO, our players lost it due to perceived injustice. We need to work on that because the big teams regularly get marginal calls and will continue to do so.

Played with fire is a fair point, gunner.b.allright. Certainly is the risk, but when you don't have very technical players I think it's a tried and trusted (as well as often failed...) tactic. In this case, I think there's an argument that if the penalty hadn't been given, our players wouldn't have lost it quite so much and we could very well have ended up winning. Impossible to say, but that is entirely our problem.
 
Topgun said:
Isn't it hilarious that every time a Norwich fan brings up the fact that the linesman gave the penalty he gets further away! I mean how can the linesman give it from Finsbury park tube station!
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Who is this directed at - is it me? I didn't mention the distance - only once given on this thread and that was fifty yards, which was what the commentator said.
 
Canary Rob said:
Who is this directed at - is it me? I didn't mention the distance - only once given on this thread and that was fifty yards, which was what the commentator said.
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Right there you get the bias of the comentator. The emirates grass area is 83 yards across. The pitch is usually set at around 74 yards. When Giroud gets pulled down he is about level with the far post. that is 41 yards away.
 
Canary Rob said:
Yawn.

Already covered.

Replays show Giroud pulling Kamara's shirt first and continuing to do so. That's why there's any debate at all. If there was no pulling of the shirt from Giroud, everyone would be saying it was an excellent spot from the linesman. I'm not entirely convinced one way or another. All I can say is that, IMO, our players lost it due to perceived injustice. We need to work on that because the big teams regularly get marginal calls and will continue to do so.

Played with fire is a fair point, gunner.b.allright. Certainly is the risk, but when you don't have very technical players I think it's a tried and trusted (as well as often failed...) tactic. In this case, I think there's an argument that if the penalty hadn't been given, our players wouldn't have lost it quite so much and we could very well have ended up winning. Impossible to say, but that is entirely our problem.
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From a free kick that shouldn't have been given? Why weren't your players thinking, "ah well, that's fair... our goal shouldn't have been allowed either???"

Justice was served.:grin:
 
What does it matter how far away he was? he got the decision right - end of
 
The thing that gets me is they would have a far better case for arguing that it shouldn't have been a corner that led to the pen, although after seeing it about 5 times Im still not sure if his heel hit the ball on the line as it went out or not so really is hard to tell. Anyone who says it wasn't a pen when the defender grabbed his shirt pulled him back and used the momentum to swing himself forward throwing giroud to the ground in the process is just a ****er imo.

And I've always had a soft spot for Norwich since I used to work for Norwich Union years ago, but not so much after this.
 
I saw this as a penalty. Giroud had a handful of the defender shirt too but it was crucial that Giroud was ahead of the defender.
The defender was not holding him off by grabbing his shirt which is not often given as a penalty, he yanked him back to stop him getting the ball. That is a very big difference and is the reason for a penalty. I thought it was a very clear penalty and the assistant should be praised for a very good decision.
 
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