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Heimdallr said:
Legalise drugs, only imprison for sexual and violent crimes, have other convicted criminals do community/social work 9-5pm - serves no purpose locking women up for not paying their TV license, stopping traffic to protest or someone doing 3-6 months inside for burglary... Zero punishment in it any more, just watch TV and suffer boredom for a few months.
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No one goes to prison for not paying their tv license, some, very very few, go to prison for not paying the court fine. Must be like a holiday camp in the nick, I'm not sure of the figures for Butlins or Haven, but dozens of prisoner commit suicide inside every year. :emoticon-0138-think



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TwoWrights said:
No one goes to prison for not paying their tv license, some, very very few, go to prison for not paying the court fine. Must be like a holiday camp in the nick, I'm not sure of the figures for Butlins or Haven, but dozens of prisoner commit suicide inside every year. :emoticon-0138-think



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Or it means that sending drug addicts or mentally unwell ppl to prison often doesn't result in a successful outcome.

754 women were jailed for not paying court fines related to the TV license between 1998-2018. What was the point.
 
Heimdallr said:
Or it means that sending drug addicts or mentally unwell ppl to prison often doesn't result in a successful outcome.

754 women were jailed for not paying court fines related to the TV license between 1998-2018. What was the point.
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And the number of men? **** it, if I'm ever in court I'm not paying the fine, no point. :emoticon-0138-think


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Heimdallr said:
Or it means that sending drug addicts or mentally unwell ppl to prison often doesn't result in a successful outcome.

754 women were jailed for not paying court fines related to the TV license between 1998-2018. What was the point.
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The point was that they'd been punished by our judiciary system and failed to adhere to the terms set out in their repayment commitment?

I've had some hefty fines back in the day and never failed to pay any of them.If you failed to make a payment in my time a warrant was served for your arrest and as I didn't fancy spending months of my life in HMP Barlinnie,I complied.
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
The point was that they'd been punished by our judiciary system and failed to adhere to the terms set out in their repayment commitment?

I've had some hefty fines back in the day and never failed to pay any of them.If you failed to make a payment in my time a warrant was served for your arrest and as I didn't fancy spending months of my life in HMP Barlinnie,I complied.
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You could set up a limited company, show some form of income, borrow money from a bank or someone, use services from a supplier, be completely incompetent in running the company and declare bankruptcy owing millions and agree to pay back pennies to a pound, and since the late 19th century, you wouldn't go to prison for it as it's largely a civil case.

It's crazy that a woman or man could go to prison for not paying fines relating to TV license, utilities bills, council tax etc in which most cases will leave the person and their family worse off, plus costing the tax payer far more than actually covering the bill. Some sort of community service 9-5pm for a period of time is a far more suitable repayment.

Didn't pay your water bill? Fine, work in a homeless shelter for six months and the water company can write off the bill and consider the work you've done as good for society and a gift from the shareholders.
 
TwoWrights said:
And the number of men? **** it, if I'm ever in court I'm not paying the fine, no point. :emoticon-0138-think


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. In 2022, there were 44,245 prosecutions and 40,654 convictions for TV Licence evasion. Of the 40,654 convicted, 30,193 were women (74%).

Must be one of the only offences that's mainly committed by women.
 
Ric Glasgow said:
The point was that they'd been punished by our judiciary system and failed to adhere to the terms set out in their repayment commitment?

I've had some hefty fines back in the day and never failed to pay any of them.If you failed to make a payment in my time a warrant was served for your arrest and as I didn't fancy spending months of my life in HMP Barlinnie,I complied.
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Exactly, I have little doubt those sent to prison for not paying the fine will have had several chances/warnings to avoid prison. Some of them may have ended up there for failing to comply with a further community service order or such like, the HDM report on cases like this week in week out.
Abridged version, actions have consequences, if you don't like the consequences change your actions. :emoticon-0138-think



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TwoWrights said:
Exactly, I have little doubt those sent to prison for not paying the fine will have had several chances/warnings to avoid prison. Some of them may have ended up there for failing to comply with a further community service order or such like, the HDM report on cases like this week in week out.
Abridged version, actions have consequences, if you don't like the consequences change your actions. :emoticon-0138-think



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I wonder if Katie Price pays her tv licence fee? She doesn’t seem to pay for anything other than more plastic surgery and she seems to get away with it.
 
TwoWrights said:
Exactly, I have little doubt those sent to prison for not paying the fine will have had several chances/warnings to avoid prison. Some of them may have ended up there for failing to comply with a further community service order or such like, the HDM report on cases like this week in week out.
Abridged version, actions have consequences, if you don't like the consequences change your actions. :emoticon-0138-think



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No.

Imprisoning poor ppl, at a cost to the taxpayer of 10x - 1000x the original debt, is a ridiculous, moronic policy and serves no purpose. It then leaves them in a more precarious position to pay it back afterwards.

If it's credit-related, the bank or finance company related should wear the loss and include it under business write-downs and if it's utilities/council tax, then it can be paid down a different way.
 
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