My next door neighbour, Sue, calls me "Foxy".
Not becuase she thinks I'm hot, it’s because she once caught me going through her bins.
Not becuase she thinks I'm hot, it’s because she once caught me going through her bins.
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Playing devil's advocate, if it stops people claiming benefits in more than one location, taking a driving test on someone else's behalf, someone gaining access to your bank account, among other things then it would be a good thing.
Not digital for me, as said to many opportunities for fraud but something like a national insurance number card with picture.
Not digital for me, as said to many opportunities for fraud but something like a national insurance number card with picture.
Sorry but only those who have chosen to enter into the mainstream system will have ‘ID’ those who choose not to will abuse the trust inherent in English law which is now not fit for purpose. Any cash based section of society that trades cash goods , money launders can do without any ID . If you want to keep this under control under the law you must make everyone on the country accountable and that includes those at the top too . I’ve worked with many EU people abroad and they have said that we should have had ID cards since the war as the Germans did . It’s not a political thing it’s a practical step IMO .
Amen...but I've got a sneaking suspicion that this isn't up for grabs and will be forced upon us?
If successful,it'll be the first thing that's ever been produced that can't be counterfeited.
You'll get one for a ton within a couple of months of them coming into play.You'll get yours on Springbank,I'll get mine from 'Dodgy Dave' in the Barrowlands market
If successful,it'll be the first thing that's ever been produced that can't be counterfeited.
You'll get one for a ton within a couple of months of them coming into play.You'll get yours on Springbank,I'll get mine from 'Dodgy Dave' in the Barrowlands market
They don't even need to be forged. There are plenty of times you can get genuine but unrecorded tickets for big events from the manufacturers if you know the right people. This would be no different.
You only have to look at fake passports. There is a very public issue at the moment where a 'journalist' used a fake one for an investigation where they travelled abroad on it when they needed another identity. That also suggests any scheme in Europe (or beyond) doesn't work either.
Yet another risk of cyber crime too.
The 8000 kid’s details from a child care provider being held ransom by cyber criminals at the moment is just a small example.
If anything I’d be in favour of less digital ID. It’s too open to fraud or crime
Read this a few times and still can't work out the bit about the cash. Of course using cash does take place in the illegal economy but I hope we don't do away with cash as that will just bring along a whole load of other potential problems that many of those who oppose id cards are opposed to, if you see what I mean.
Said it before and I'll say it again my digital ID is so ****ing convenient. I couldnt even provid two copies of utility bills like you do in the UK as I do it all online lol.
I also dont mind being legally obliged to carry id. Only criminals would object IMHO.
I also dont mind being legally obliged to carry id. Only criminals would object IMHO.
I've had a personnummer thirty two years now, and digital ID for 24 years. Never heard of anyone having had their ID hacked and stolen. Seems to happen a lot in the UK, where you can take out credit cards and loans in others names etc using post and fake addresses. Not compulsory to carry an id card here and never get asked for it, just another form of ID for some that don't have a passport (you can use it to travel within the Schengen area though).
I think some people are missing the details on what exactly the digital ID scheme actually encompasses.
It's not a conspiracy to say that staying within the law won't necessarily leave you unaffected, and those normally viewed as criminals will not be the biggest fear.
It's not a conspiracy to say that staying within the law won't necessarily leave you unaffected, and those normally viewed as criminals will not be the biggest fear.
Does it just prove who you are, or is it linked to every aspect of your life, such as bank, health, lifestyle, shopping etc etc through one 'master key'?
I just checked, and the Swedish one is nothing like as far reaching as the one proposed for the UK and the EU is pushing them to expand it.
The Swedish one is not a National eID for a kick off, it's just one run by the banking system and therefore does not include everyone.
I dont know what you are proposing in the UK but I use it to check and submit my taxes, renew my passport and driving licence, this week to register to be an authorised instructor for my daughters driving lessons, log in to my bank, get my prescription from the doctors, collect a package from the post office, sign off my hours worked at work, approve my expenses at work and dozens of other things. Its the dogs bollocks. Anytime I need to be authenticated as me I can use my bank id.
I'm not proposing anything. The guy behind arresting 12,000 people a year for non-crime tweets is. That and his other history should be a big enough red flag.
Beyond that, can I suggest that as you admit you don't know what is proposed, you have a look at what is proposed. Don't just grab a few headlines, do a deep dive and you will soon see that what you have (voluntarily and not universally) is a fraction of what is proposed here.
The previous, much lighter scheme was an absolute mess of IT and data base leaks and **** ups, never mind wide open to official abuse if 'they' don't like your legal views or actions.
They claims they make as justification for bringing it in are patent and obvious bollocks, which is just one of many red flags.