Americanisation

[Willa Pond]

how can you call it a world series when only the ****ing yanks play in it

Well I think other people have answered the first part - and it's not only the Yanks that play in the World Series although I'm sure to the ignorant and unelightened Canadians appear as Yanks

Baseball can be boring although the idea that teh home team always gets the final innings and could win from seemingly hopeless situations can make for some exciting finishes... I usually tune in from the 7th inning stretch and with NFL I watch the last quarter.

NHL I find fast - once you get your eyes accustomed to finding the puck on screen (not so bad if you're there)

 

[connor wigham]

i might be wrong but didnt japan win it one time or am i compleatly wrong

 

[Willa Pond]

i might be wrong but didnt japan win it one time or am i compleatly wrong

Not the World Series - only non US team that ever won it was Toronto - twice in the early 90s. I believe the Japanese won something called 'World Baseball Classic' which is competed by various national sides.


p.s. isn't it odd that although very few of us admit to liking baseball quite a lot of us have baseball bats in the house?

 

[connor wigham]

Not the World Series - only non US team that ever won it was Toronto - twice in the early 90s. I believe the Japanese won something called 'World Baseball Classic' which is competed by various national sides.


p.s. isn't it odd that although very few of us admit to liking baseball quite a lot of us have baseball bats in the house?

Ah ok i never liked baseball at all

 

[SAFC_Derry]

sorry but your wrong!soccer is a shortening of association football used by the toffs who get the accolades for creating the rules...but the game of football has working class roots and always has and always will be called football...like the chinese and the french the irish apear to have invented everything..but in the case of orginised football..the uk should be recognised as the originator of out great sport

Which part is wrong? I said football which covers many sports has origins going back thousands of years over many countries. I haven't seen any evidence (I could be wrong) to suggest it originated in England. You are quite right that soccer was a shortening of association and I think they used a couple of different variations of the word before settling for soccer and I'm sure that term was indeed most probably set up by the English. Again you are also right about the working class playing a game called fut ball or mob fut ball which was more akin to street violence than the game we now know. My point wasn't about soccer but about football which as I've said covers many sports and as yet I've seen no evidence as to where the first ball was kicked so to speak and didn't try and claim it as a form of any Irish sport but as you said we have invented quite alot so you never know. ;-)

 

[Black Cat Kiwi]

i might be wrong but didnt japan win it one time or am i compleatly wrong

Not the World Series - only non US team that ever won it was Toronto - twice in the early 90s. I believe the Japanese won something called the 'World Baseball Classic' which is competed by various national sides.


p.s. isn't it odd that although very few of us admit to liking baseball quite a lot of us have baseball bats in the house?

I'll let the trainspotters find it but in the 60's they "invited" Japan to play a "World Series" of some sort & Japan won it only never to be invited again. (So a mate has always said?)

Thy now play whats called "World Baseball Classic" which Japan won both of in '06 & '09.The next is in 2013.

They've also had a competion called the 'World Baseball Cup" for ameters or minor league players for over 60 years which Cuba usally won. The last tournament was won by the Netherlands this year. This is being replaced by an under 21 to run along side I think the next WBC in 2013 but not quite sure.

Then they're going to have a World Cup of some sort with the best 12 countries open to all players in 2015. Bt it cant be called the "World Series"!

 

[billofengland]

Aloo min um, soccer, tires [ the round blacl things you put on your wheels ]....... Baseball [ rounders ] football [ rugby for soft gits ]

****IN CLASS.

 

[Chimera]

Which part is wrong? I said football which covers many sports has origins going back thousands of years over many countries. I haven't seen any evidence (I could be wrong) to suggest it originated in England. You are quite right that soccer was a shortening of association and I think they used a couple of different variations of the word before settling for soccer and I'm sure that term was indeed most probably set up by the English. Again you are also right about the working class playing a game called fut ball or mob fut ball which was more akin to street violence than the game we now know. My point wasn't about soccer but about football which as I've said covers many sports and as yet I've seen no evidence as to where the first ball was kicked so to speak and didn't try and claim it as a form of any Irish sport but as you said we have invented quite alot so you never know. ;-)

my point is that the orginised game as we know it was started by the uk folk it may have been called soccer by the toffs but the plebs always called it football.. the game probably began with the kicking game until some twat picked the ball up and ran with it thus rugby was born(YES ITS A MYTH)....from a logical point of view a game where 95%of the time the ball is kicked by the foot deserves the name football and in my opinion the other forms developed from this proto game ...so it should be up to the other forms of the game to find their own name and to leave the folk in the uk alone when we call our national sport by the name it deserves football ..i have no probs with ausie rules or garlic football or american football but when they use football as a generic term for their perocial game well then thats a different matter.....and as for the irish french and chinese..i meant they alwaysc claim to have invented everything...but from danny boy to orginised football the irish claims are false

 

[Willa Pond]

It's just what's most common in the country you live in.. no one in Canada would ever say 'ice hockey' it's just 'hockey', it's unlikley the yanks are going to call their version of football 'American Football' to them it's just 'football'. And why do we give a ****e what the Yanks call anything it's not like we're being forced to call it soccer?

As and aside; for convenience I now have everyone I know in Toronto calling football 'footy' to distinguish it easily in conversations... I hope no one here objects to 'footy'!!

 

[Shameless]

... I hope no one here objects to 'footy'!!

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[Willa Pond]

 

[Commachio]

A hobbit cast as a West Ham footy hooligan.........now that was kinda screwd up.

 

[connor wigham]

A hobbit cast as a West Ham footy hooligan.........now that was kinda screwd up.

better then the second movie that was a waste of time

 

[SAFC_Derry]

my point is that the orginised game as we know it was started by the uk folk it may have been called soccer by the toffs but the plebs always called it football.. the game probably began with the kicking game until some twat picked the ball up and ran with it thus rugby was born(YES ITS A MYTH)....from a logical point of view a game where 95%of the time the ball is kicked by the foot deserves the name football and in my opinion the other forms developed from this proto game ...so it should be up to the other forms of the game to find their own name and to leave the folk in the uk alone when we call our national sport by the name it deserves football ..i have no probs with ausie rules or garlic football or american football but when they use football as a generic term for their perocial game well then thats a different matter.....and as for the irish french and chinese..i meant they alwaysc claim to have invented everything...but from danny boy to orginised football the irish claims are false

This is the whole point lad it is your opinion and everyone is entitled to one. But it is also my opinion that football/soccer as you know it evolved from a catch and kick sort of game which has records that go back (in many countries) over thousands of years. On another point I have never claimed the Irish invented organised football as there is simply no evidence to back this up as I've stated. As for the Irish claims of inventing everything I personally have never heard this but we do like to exaggerate after a tipple!!!!

 

[...And Out Come the Wolve]

This is the whole point lad it is your opinion and everyone is entitled to one. But it is also my opinion that football/soccer as you know it evolved from a catch and kick sort of game which has records that go back (in many countries) over thousands of years. On another point I have never claimed the Irish invented organised football as there is simply no evidence to back this up as I've stated. As for the Irish claims of inventing everything I personally have never heard this but we do like to exaggerate after a tipple!!!!

By that logic the first humans to ever throw or kick something can lay claim to inventing football.

 

[Shameless]

By that logic the first humans to ever throw or kick something can lay claim to inventing football.

Actually, it was Sedgefield, everyone knows that.

Not to be confused with their recent MP's version of Drop the Ball Game.

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[SAFC_Derry]

By that logic the first humans to ever throw or kick something can lay claim to inventing football.

Were did you get that from? I said it is my opinion that football/soccer as we know it evolved from a catch and kick sort of game as records of these games pre dated football/soccer. I never at any point said anyone invented it or whether it was directly taken and refined from any specific sport and indeed could of been taken from a number of sports.

 

[MrRAWhite]

I think it would be impossible to trace the original origin of 'football like' ball games However, it is safe to say that the organised 'rule based' game as we know it today had its roots in Britain.

 

[...And Out Come the Wolve]

I think it would be impossible to trace the original origin of 'football like' ball games However, it is safe to say that the organised 'rule based' game as we know it today had its roots in Britain.

This is my point Derry.

Take a car for example. When someone invents something do they just come along and magic something out of thin air? Or do they build upon past ideas?

 

[SAFC_Derry]

This is my point Derry.

Take a car for example. When someone invents something do they just come along and magic something out of thin air? Or do they build upon past ideas?

I agree with you? I know it is impossible to trace it's origins. The only point I was disagreeing about was when it was implied that I was saying otherwise? I know there is no evidence to indicate it's origin but others were trying to put words into my mouth by saying I was trying to say that the Irish had invented it!