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As this seems to have been skipped again.

I assume the previous yes is the answer to the second question on omnipotence and omnibenevolence, So:

  1. If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
  2. If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
  3. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
 
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Yes I have but you are welcome to repeat it

Come on its not like you haven't the time
I've got plenty of time, but I won't get an answer anyway, so it's pointless.
You haven't read the comment. If you want the answer, then it's there.
I'm not going to repeat it.
 
As this seems to have been skipped.

I assume the previous yes is the answer to the second question on omnipotence and omnibenevolence, So:

  1. If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
  2. If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
  3. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?


I don't accept this premise and its a discussion requiring a long uninterrupted discussion without likes of PNP trying to act intellectual and appear clever. Also its nearly maghrib time. In uses tonthink similar but discussed the topic in depth over weeks and even months

A simple answer in my own words is that you have to start at step one, this question is later steps, once you establish a creator and aine of his reasonings then evil isn't seen from the viewpoint of you and me but how the creator describes it. In my case from Quran and hadith once I accepted then to be true etc

So, for example, we have pollution today and the Quran tells is that if we give into greed etc and start to destroy the earth then the air and the waters will be polluted but it's on us

A true story involving my grandad was him using a water taxi (boat) to come home. The boat was built for 25 people but the boatman said to 2 eztra end to get on boars saying well be alright by the will of Allah. An old man chastised him and said if you have 25 on board and we sink then its the will of Allah but of you have 27 then its on you

Today evil is on us bug we don't admit it, God warned us, we don't listen then complain but but kids get cancer
 
I've got plenty of time, but I won't get an answer anyway, so it's pointless.
You haven't read the comment. If you want the answer, then it's there.
I'm not going to repeat it.

The answer isn't there. I have repeated that in an effort to address your questions

Of course of you don't want to repeat it its proof it ain't there

I need to know which theists claim God is supernatural and nonphysical

You know you've ****ed up don't you, hence the blabbering rather than answering?

You got time to waste to sling accusations and get told to **** off by DMD

You right though, you are pointless
 
I don't accept this premise and its a discussion requiring a long uninterrupted discussion without likes of PNP trying to act intellectual and appear clever. Also its nearly maghrib time. In uses tonthink similar but discussed the topic in depth over weeks and even months

A simple answer in my own words is that you have to start at step one, this question is later steps, once you establish a creator and aine of his reasonings then evil isn't seen from the viewpoint of you and me but how the creator describes it. In my case from Quran and hadith once I accepted then to be true etc

So, for example, we have pollution today and the Quran tells is that if we give into greed etc and start to destroy the earth then the air and the waters will be polluted but it's on us

A true story involving my grandad was him using a water taxi (boat) to come home. The boat was built for 25 people but the boatman said to 2 eztra end to get on boars saying well be alright by the will of Allah. An old man chastised him and said if you have 25 on board and we sink then its the will of Allah but of you have 27 then its on you

Today evil is on us bug we don't admit it, God warned us, we don't listen then complain but but kids get cancer

So he's not omnibenevolent then?

Why did he make people in such away that theses bad things, which your god presumably also created, exist? Why didn't he just make a perfect world if he is omnipotent?
 
The answer isn't there. I have repeated that in an effort to address your questions

Of course of you don't want to repeat it its proof it ain't there

I need to know which theists claim God is supernatural and nonphysical

You know you've ****ed up don't you, hence the blabbering rather than answering?

You got time to waste to sling accusations and get told to **** off by DMD

You right though, you are pointless
Rant.
 
So he's not omnibenevolent then?

Why did he make people in such away that theses bad things, which your god presumably also created, exist? Why didn't he just make a perfect world if he is omnipotent?

I have to go for prayers, hence short responses also phone on 5%

Again if you understand the purpose, as highlighted by scripture etc, then a perfect world wasn't the point of this creation
 
I have to go for prayers, hence short responses also phone on 5%

Again if you understand the purpose, as highlighted by scripture etc, then a perfect world wasn't the point of this creation

I've mentioned before, I don't accept scripture as a credible source. I view it as an attempt to rehash pagan traditions for political ends.

A god that allows suffering, is not omnibenevolent.
 
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I've mentioned before, I don't accept scripture as a credible source. I view it as an attempt to rehash pagan traditions for political ends.

A god that allows suffering, is not omnibenevolent.

You don't have to accept it to gain understanding of certain concepts or answers to certain questioning

Pagan traditions is chicken and egg
 
As this seems to have been skipped again.

I assume the previous yes is the answer to the second question on omnipotence and omnibenevolence, So:

  1. If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
  2. If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
  3. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?

Ooh, their kryptonite. :)
Of course, their stock reply to this is "God works in mysterious ways" .
 
You don't have to accept it to gain understanding of certain concepts or answers to certain questioning

Pagan traditions is chicken and egg

Pagan traditions are not chicken and egg, they predate Abrahimic religions.

Explain, how a god that allows suffering is omnibenevolent.

Explain why a god that is omnipotent, made creatures that harm the planet and other creatures..