Alexis Sánchez dropped at Liverpool after storming out of Arsenal training

[Milk not bear jizz]

Sanchez did it on purpose. He wanted to get dropped. He feared going up against Emre Can lest he be humiliated.

[HASHTAG]#smartmove[/HASHTAG]

 

[Hoddle is a god]

Spurs always get the selling club jibe, don't really know why, but I'll take it. Arsenal have to be a selling club because their star players outgrow the club.

Glass houses...remember that Goons.

This.

 

[Hoddle is a god]

It's a club that lacks the ambition of a player like Sanchez.

I don't think you are wumming when you say that, Luvvy.

 

[Hoddle is a god]

Not even ambition.
It seems to be all about team-mates too often not putting in a shift.

At Spurs there was a similar spat during Pochettinos' first season.
Those conclusively on the wrong side of the argument were cleared out ASAP.

The manager has to be in control.

Sanchez should not be doing Wenger's job and then getting punished for it.

This has all come about because Wenger is weak.

 

[Zanjinho]

Spurs always get the selling club jibe, don't really know why, but I'll take it. Arsenal have to be a selling club because their star players outgrow the club.

Glass houses...remember that Goons.

Bit like Liverpool, you guys don't buy the current star, you make the next one. They move on for large amounts to bigger and better clubs (or Chelsea once they're washed up ) and opposition fans see it as a production line.

We knew Suarez would be off if one of the Spanish giants came calling but I was happy for him to use us as a stepping stone. He needed to play very well to get that desired move, that's great for both parties.

 

[Zanjinho]

The goons finished second but were out of the title race in March.
2nd mearly papered over some very big cracks.
For what it's worth, wenger is right not to let a player think he is bigger than the club. Unfortunately for him the player in question is currently not only their best player but in some games is their only player.
They are a one man team and only wenger can be blamed for that being allowed to happen imho

I never said Arsenal had a chance of winning the league last season, I said they got closer to it than others; backed up by the fact Arsenal finishing second to Leicester, the winners!

Agree with the player stance part.

 

[remembercolinlee]

I never said Arsenal had a chance of winning the league last season, I said they got closer to it than others; backed up by the fact Arsenal finishing second to Leicester, the winners!

Agree with the player stance part.

Wasn't trying to put words in your mouth or twist what you were saying or even argue.

Sorry if it came across like that.

Just trying to make the point that them coming 2nd when we failed to get just 3 points from our last 4 games made their season seem semi decent when (for them) it was it's usual fall away in Feb and March and then have a decent finish.
Imho our failure to make 2nd spot has been really damaging to them as it papered over some pretty big cracks which are in danger of becoming a Grand Canyon

 

[luvgonzo]

I don't think you are wumming when you say that, Luvvy.

I don't wum.

 

[luvgonzo]

Not wumming but, Arsenal are closer to both of those things than Spurs (and indeed Liverpool too)

That's the point though Arsenal are close to winning the league, if they dip in their pockets and kick Wenger out, they have everything in place to be challenging.
Problem is the owners don't want to challenge, it's easier to just plod along with Wenger and not spend too much. #profits

 

[Zanjinho]

That's the point though Arsenal are close to winning the league, if they dip in their pockets and kick Wenger out, they have everything in place to be challenging.
Problem is the owners don't want to challenge, it's easier to just plod along with Wenger and not spend too much. [HASHTAG]#profits[/HASHTAG]

Theoretically yes but they could go the other way by booting Wenger too.

I think they've reach the point in which they need to find out now though...

 

[NSIS]

That's the point though Arsenal are close to winning the league, if they dip in their pockets and kick Wenger out, they have everything in place to be challenging.
Problem is the owners don't want to challenge, it's easier to just plod along with Wenger and not spend too much. [HASHTAG]#profits[/HASHTAG]

Spot on, from what I can see!...

 

[luvgonzo]

Theoretically yes but they could go the other way by booting Wenger too.

I think they've reach the point in which they need to find out now though...

That's spot on, well for the fans anyway I would think. They need to see what they can achieve by bringing in a new manager and backing him financially, problem is that there's not a club in England that has such a division between the club and it's fans. The board don't care what the fans want and if Wenger gets 4th he'll be there next season.

 

[The Ginger Marks]

I don't wum.

Correct you never wum..........****stir maybe.

 

[luvgonzo]

Correct you never wum..........****stir maybe.

You must be thinking of someone else.

 

[SpursDisciple]

He's basically saying a true warrior fights not for the hatred he's faced with, but for the love of those behind him.

I prefer Matth's translation

 

[The Ginger Marks]

Theoretically yes but they could go the other way by booting Wenger too.

I think they've reach the point in which they need to find out now though...

I don't see Wenger as the problem at Arsenal, they were always on the cusp before the new stadium came up. Wenger was obviously told to not spend heavily on new players which could have taken them to the next level. Spurs are to make the same mistakes as Arsenal have....new stadium and no real money to strengthen and better the squad. So don't expect seeing them stepping up to the next level anytime soon.

Like Arsenal their top players won't hang about if they're not winning things. All the top six clubs and players want to play European football and win trophies.

 

[Bodinki]

Imho our failure to make 2nd spot has been really damaging to them as it papered over some pretty big cracks which are in danger of becoming a Grand Canyon

Have to say I agree with this completely.
Arsenal getting second did actually **** them over somewhat by, like you say, papering over some cracks.

But now I am just waiting for HIAG to come in and say it was Poch's plan all along to let them get second and thus he sabotaged Spurs' last 3 games of the season

 

[The RDBD]

Have to say I agree with this completely.
Arsenal getting second did actually **** them over somewhat by, like you say, papering over some cracks.

If the Goons had finished 3rd there would have been some classic Wenger blurb,
but nothing from the board as CL qualification job done regardless.

We all know the only seismic event will be when the Goons under Wenger fail to
get their annual CL ticket.

 

[SpursDisciple]

Have to say I agree with this completely.
Arsenal getting second did actually **** them over somewhat by, like you say, papering over some cracks.

But now I am just waiting for HIAG to come in and say it was Poch's plan all along to let them get second and thus he sabotaged Spurs' last 3 games of the season

Poch is a ****ing genius, even I didn't spot that cunning plan.

 

[SpursDisciple]

If the Goons had finished 3rd there would have been some classic Wenger blurb,
but nothing from the board as CL qualification job done regardless.

We all know the only seismic event will be when the Goons under Wenger fail to
get their annual CL ticket.

Surely losing the fans has got to have some impact. Even with TV revenue, it is still important to keep the customers happy.