Off Topic Adam Johnson

[fredor]

Couple of questions, Are the Halo's of the Newcastle supporters visible, do they in any way interfere with your everyday activities ?
Has anyone thought you can now never have anther post like the one a couple of months ago when we heard of your sexploits of mates wives and mother and daughter it would not fit your present pious views

 

[TheJudeanPeoplesFront]

Couple of questions, Are the Halo's of the Newcastle supporters visible, do they in any way interfere with your everyday activities ?

Shush ***** happy clapper

 

[TheJudeanPeoplesFront]

It's quite simple boys, every single fan who has clapped and cheered that disgusting child groomer needs to apologise to the victim. Otherwise you are equally guilty scum.

 

[fredor]

It's quite simple boys, every single fan who has clapped and cheered that disgusting child groomer needs to apologise to the victim. Otherwise you are equally guilty scum.

Bit of a change from your usual affinity for incest

 

[TheJudeanPeoplesFront]

Bit of a change from your usual affinity for incest

Ooo diddums. Either apologise to the victim or shush ***** happy clapping scum

 

[Commachio]

Ok mate. Whatever. You've gone from saying the 'club knew nothing' to 'we don't know what the club knew' You carry on lad! Make sure you come back to us when your club makes it's statement won't you?

PS Keep chucking the personal insults in there. You're showing yourself up. The best form of defense is attack. Right?

Defense? Are you american?

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

I think that what's getting lost is that kissing a 15 year old isn't necessarily a criminal offence. It is only a criminal offence if the kiss was sexual.

If Johnson said that he signed her shirt, she gave him a thank you kiss and they exchanged some flirty emails, it is suspicious as hell but not a confession of guilt (except to being a knobhead)

I think he has admitted it was a sexual kiss. He is just not admitting the sex acts alleged.

"When asked if he had been aroused at the time, the ex-Sunderland star was said to have replied: "I am guessing so, you get aroused when you kiss someone."

And when asked if the kiss was passionate, he responded: “When you kiss someone with tongue it’s like quite passionate, you wouldn’t give your mam a kiss with tongues.”

On the last bit you never know with Mackems

 

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[Freddd]

I think he has admitted it was a sexual kiss. He is just not admitting the sex acts alleged.

"When asked if he had been aroused at the time, the ex-Sunderland star was said to have replied: "I am guessing so, you get aroused when you kiss someone."

And when asked if the kiss was passionate, he responded: “When you kiss someone with tongue it’s like quite passionate, you wouldn’t give your mam a kiss with tongues.”

On the last bit you never know with Mackems

Oh, he has certainly now admitted a sexual kiss and indeed has plead guilty to one count of sexual contact with a child.

I was talking about what SAFC knew. If they had only been told he signed a shirt and she gave him a kiss, then that in itself wouldn't mean they knew he was guilty

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

Oh, he has certainly now admitted a sexual kiss and indeed has plead guilty to one count of sexual contact with a child.

I was talking about what SAFC knew. If they had only been told he signed a shirt and she gave him a kiss, then that in itself wouldn't mean they knew he was guilty

Oh yes sorry missed the obvious there. Obviously the barrister are saying Sunderland knew. I suppose it all depends what was in those original transcripts and what they were told.

 

[fredor]

I have to say this phenomenon of the present day Newcastle supporter intrigues me, until now I have always assumed the brawls at the local derbies were no more than a coming together of opposing fans, now I find it difficult to imagine that such paragons of virtue would be party to such a thing, that perhaps the fault is with the Sunderland supporters, to expand on this concept, could you tell me, when you go to the toilet is there any odour given off

 

[JakartaToon]

I have to say this phenomenon of the present day Newcastle supporter intrigues me, until now I have always assumed the brawls at the local derbies were no more than a coming together of opposing fans, now I find it difficult to imagine that such paragons of virtue would be party to such a thing, that perhaps the fault is with the Sunderland supporters, to expand on this concept, could you tell me, when you go to the toilet is there any odour given off

I have to admit that it does - I have noticed a smell that resembles the air in Sunderland on a good day.

 

[General Lee Speaking]

I have to say this phenomenon of the present day Newcastle supporter intrigues me, until now I have always assumed the brawls at the local derbies were no more than a coming together of opposing fans, now I find it difficult to imagine that such paragons of virtue would be party to such a thing, that perhaps the fault is with the Sunderland supporters, to expand on this concept, could you tell me, when you go to the toilet is there any odour given off

Are we not allowed to discuss this case, or to criticise a *****phile operating in the local community because we are Newcastle fans and he was a Sunderland player?

 

[fredor]

Are we not allowed to discuss this case, or to criticise a *****phile operating in the local community because we are Newcastle fans and he was a Sunderland player?

Of course you are, but try to keep your thoughts realistic, none of us are angels, where would you put his offence on a scale of *****philes you have read or heard about, ( Jimmy Saville Rolf Harris and others ) do you,as you point out believe he is being singled out because he was a Sunderland player

 

[G4rdToonArmy]

Of course you are, but try to keep your thoughts realistic, none of us are angels, where would you put his offence on a scale of *****philes you have read or heard about, ( Jimmy Saville Rolf Harris and others ) do you,as you point out believe he is being singled out because he was a Sunderland player

He's being singled out because he's a nonce...

 

[Magnet]

Of course you are, but try to keep your thoughts realistic, none of us are angels, where would you put his offence on a scale of *****philes you have read or heard about, ( Jimmy Saville Rolf Harris and others ) do you,as you point out believe he is being singled out because he was a Sunderland player

I have to say I find your comments, if genuinely held and not just wumming, quite distasteful in their insinuations. We have in Johnson a 27yo man grooming and engaging in sexual activity with a 15yo girl full well knowing that she was a 15 yo girl. We have in you someone who seems to be suggesting that it's not all that bad really and that most men have probably done it.

I doubt that many 27yo men engage in what Johnson has pleaded guilty to nor would they. Age and knowledge is a very important factor in this case. Firstly, the girl's age of 15 yo and the fact that Johnson knew this. Secondly, Johnson is not some tipsy/drunk 18 yo man at a nightclub who didn't realise her age, he was 27 yo. Thirdly, he has admitted "grooming" her which is an offence which includes knowledge and deliberate intent. Excerpt below from Government website.

"To combat increasing sexual approaches to children on-line, there is a new offence of meeting a child following sexual grooming. This makes it a crime to befriend a child on the Internet or by other means and meet or intend to meet the child with the intention of abusing them. The maximum sentence is 10 years imprisonment."

The man is disgusting and not worthy of being called a man. Anyone who attempts to minimise what he has done needs to look very closely at their own standards of behaviour. Just because there are worse incidents of sexual offences does not make this any the less serious. He is scum and merits all that he receives when he is sentenced. I hope he is imprisoned as I believe it is a serious offence and that young girls need protecting from themselves and scum like him.

 

[Sheikh_of_Araby]

I have to say I find your comments, if genuinely held and not just wumming, quite distasteful in their insinuations. We have in Johnson a 27yo man grooming and engaging in sexual activity with a 15yo girl full well knowing that she was a 15 yo girl. We have in you someone who seems to be suggesting that it's not all that bad really and that most men have probably done it.

I doubt that many 27yo men engage in what Johnson has pleaded guilty to nor would they. Age and knowledge is a very important factor in this case. Firstly, the girl's age of 15 yo and the fact that Johnson knew this. Secondly, Johnson is not some tipsy/drunk 18 yo man at a nightclub who didn't realise her age, he was 27 yo. Thirdly, he has admitted "grooming" her which is an offence which includes knowledge and deliberate intent. Excerpt below from Government website.

"To combat increasing sexual approaches to children on-line, there is a new offence of meeting a child following sexual grooming. This makes it a crime to befriend a child on the Internet or by other means and meet or intend to meet the child with the intention of abusing them. The maximum sentence is 10 years imprisonment."

The man is disgusting and not worthy of being called a man. Anyone who attempts to minimise what he has done needs to look very closely at their own standards of behaviour. Just because there are worse incidents of sexual offences does not make this any the less serious. He is scum and merits all that he receives when he is sentenced. I hope he is imprisoned as I believe it is a serious offence and that young girls need protecting from themselves and scum like him.

This.

Child abuse, is child abuse, whether the victim is 5, 10 or 15. There is no mitigation here, no defence. He's admitted grooming the victim, kissing her passionately and being aroused. He was planning to go a lot further. The girls behaviour in this is irrelevant. In the eyes of the law she is a child. As a mature adult, Johnson should have stayed well clear. He hasn't and is rightly in court. Anyone defending his behaviour should really be watched closely by the authorities as they themselves probably pose a danger to children.

 

[bishbosh]

Penfold and Windy make excellent points.

Fredor, there's a hell of a difference between a brawl (which a lot will have witnessed through attending footy matches) and *****philia! If your moral compass cannot distinguish between the two, I fear for you and those around you. (It may actually have a name - psychopathy, although I'm no expert)

 

[General Lee Speaking]

Of course you are, but try to keep your thoughts realistic, none of us are angels, where would you put his offence on a scale of *****philes you have read or heard about, ( Jimmy Saville Rolf Harris and others ) do you,as you point out believe he is being singled out because he was a Sunderland player

I'm not going to read every post back on this thread but I don't think anyone's put forward unrealistic thoughts or comments, other than yourself of course who seems to think that what he's done is not that big a deal. For the sake of clarity, I do not think he's being singled out because he was a Sunderland player.

 

[Hung Drawn and Quartered]

He's being singled out because he's a nonce...

This.

Child abuse, is child abuse, whether the victim is 5, 10 or 15. There is no mitigation here, no defence. He's admitted grooming the victim, kissing her passionately and being aroused. He was planning to go a lot further. The girls behaviour in this is irrelevant. In the eyes of the law she is a child. As a mature adult, Johnson should have stayed well clear. He hasn't and is rightly in court. Anyone defending his behaviour should really be watched closely by the authorities as they themselves probably pose a danger to children.

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