Off Topic Adam Johnson

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a 15yr old girl is as mature sexually (and probably more mature mentally) as an 18 year old boy,
I don't see many Cougars being arrested or being called *****s, same as I don't see any mingers being arrested and jailed for having sex with drunk blokes, there's certainly a few I wouldn't have touched sober.

<laugh> what the actual ****? Hahahahaha
 
They will class him as a ****, but he's not necessarily a ****.

And the age of the child should matter. It should not be the same offensive for every age under 16.

Adam Johnsons position is redeemable. But if he had sex with a 10 year old, his position wouldn't be redeemable, in my eyes.

There is a massive distinction. If he had done something with a 10 year old then hanging would be too good for him. I remember a certain Graham Rix had sex with a 15 year old a few years ago. He was much older than Johnson. The age will mean that he won't get a massive sentence. But, he did know her age and that is a major aggravating factor.
 
Has anyone seen any pics of this 'child'?

I remember an episode in Oxford a few years back. The Manager of the United team was convicted of having sex with an under-age girl.
He met in her in a nightclub, she was over 6ft tall and caked in make-up.

The pictures of her suggested that the Oxford Manager had been very unlucky as this 'girl' appeared very much old enough.

What were the circumstances with AJ? Did he meet her from school? :emoticon-0127-lipss

Meeting a lass in a nightclub is indeed unfortunate especially as we all know it's bloody hard to tell how old lasses are these days. AJ's case is totally different tho as he's accused of (and has admitted to) grooming which as someone on here has already eluded to, implies a pre-meditated act...whether or not he actually knew she was underage I guess no-one will ever know unless she's come out and told him in a text message or whatever and the authorities can get hold of said messages. I suspect that she probably told him she was older otherwise he most likely wouldn't have had sex with her. If he had told the club that he's innocent and now he's pleading guilty then that in itself should be grounds enough for them to terminate his contract....regardless of the outcome of the trial.
 
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My favourite thing is that basically this boils down to:

"***** ***** *****"
"Well he isn't"
"***** P... you what mate?"
"He isn't a *****... Technically he isn't a ***** based on the age of the girl"
"Well what are we supposed to chant then... Kiddy-fiddler?"
"Well... other than the very explicit *****phile connotations implied by the term, that terminology is slightly more astute I suppose"
"How about nonce? Can we use nonce?"
"Actually, while ubiquitous with the fundamental criminal activity participated in, the etymology is rooted in homophobic abusive slang..."
"Oh dear, wouldn't want to piss off them. My best mate Albert's Chip Shop is gay.... Just tell me what to chant for god sake"
"Erm... Errrr.... Ah.. No... Errrrm... **** it... ***** ***** *****"
 
I write this as a father and as a fan, not just of nufc but as a fan of football.. personally I can't blame safc fans for backing him, we would do the same if it was one of our players or even family members (if they had said they were not guilty ).BUT now he's admitted guilt surely no one can defend him. Hes admitted it so deserves to rot in my opinion. It's not just safc rep that has been tarnished it's footballs in general.

Well done safc fans that have said they don't want him at their club, he should be sacked and rot in jail etc
 
Not so. All that you can see on your board was that a) it was likely in a club, and she was tarted up, so not his fault <laugh> b) it's all the girls fault being a money-grabber <laugh>

You guys actively clapped the *****. There was no sitting back. You supported him. Those are the facts.
Another fact is he was innocent at the time.
Another fact is, you're a bellend.
 
So I remember this being on a documentary somewhere (as we've all gone serious-ish) and the term is Ephebophilia. AJ's an Ephebo. I think anyone putting him in the same bracket as some child rapist is really, woefully ignorant on it. What he has done is categorically wrong - if it were my daughter I'd kneecap the fcker - but I'm of the mind there's "levels" of wrong and he's not a child molesting *****.

I got to be honest, in my younger, clubbing days, there were girls getting into a nightclub that you'd end up copping off with and some of them were 14, 15 years old, comfortably. Not sure it's as prevalent because clubbing ain't wot it used to be, mate.
 
I got to be honest, in my younger, clubbing days, there were girls getting into a nightclub that you'd end up copping off with and some of them were 14, 15 years old, comfortably. Not sure it's as prevalent because clubbing ain't wot it used to be, mate.

It's for that reason that if he'd met her in a club in a one-off situation I'd have had some sympathy for him. I know when I was in my 20s in the 80s/90s there wasn't anywhere near the level of checking Id's that there is now. I don't think I've ever copped off with anyone under 18 that I've met in a club, but it's impossible to know for sure.
 
So I remember this being on a documentary somewhere (as we've all gone serious-ish) and the term is Ephebophilia. AJ's an Ephebo. I think anyone putting him in the same bracket as some child rapist is really, woefully ignorant on it. What he has done is categorically wrong - if it were my daughter I'd kneecap the fcker - but I'm of the mind there's "levels" of wrong and he's not a child molesting *****.

I got to be honest, in my younger, clubbing days, there were girls getting into a nightclub that you'd end up copping off with and some of them were 14, 15 years old, comfortably. Not sure it's as prevalent because clubbing ain't wot it used to be, mate.

You'd cop off with 14/15 year olds when you were 27?

That has got to be wrong. I mean, forget the crime for a second, half your age plus seven makes that a nonsense!
 
You'd cop off with 14/15 year olds when you were 27?

That has got to be wrong. I mean, forget the crime for a second, half your age plus seven makes that a nonsense!

If you take a guy in his early/mid 20s, add in girls who look 19/20 and a bit of drink, and it used to happen all the time. No idea what it's like now though as I've reached the age where getting lucky means it's not raining when I pop down to the shops :(
 
You'd cop off with 14/15 year olds when you were 27?

That has got to be wrong. I mean, forget the crime for a second, half your age plus seven makes that a nonsense!

The only crime here is the maths.I meant when I was 19.

Anyway, problem with aj is he then groomed another. The pre meditation is more than enough to warrant the ***** tag, I'm afraid.