Across the Severn.
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Shocking beyond belief
How embarrassing
Unbelievable
Not a good look
If it's so "unbelievable" why do you believe it? Answer - just because you want to.........
There's already a thread over here slagging the BBC off - now they're reporting something want to believe they're fine.
CCFC have published a response - that's if you're prepared to read it.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-190123
Shocking beyond belief
How embarrassing
Unbelievable
Not a good look
If it's so "unbelievable" why do you believe it? Answer - just because you want to.........
There's already a thread over here slagging the BBC off - now they're reporting something want to believe they're fine.
CCFC have published a response - that's if you're prepared to read it.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-190123
If the BBC (or any media for that matter) is publishing things as factual that are blatantly not true then they themselves need to be taken to court for defamation and libel.
@Oldsparkey in everyone's defence (not confined to this thread, audience, board or topic), most of us get our news - particularly of this type, through a media report of some sort. It's only with hindsight we realise when it's been misrepresented - and if/when this is uncovered then we absolutely DO slag off the sources.
@Oldsparkey in everyone's defence (not confined to this thread, audience, board or topic), most of us get our news - particularly of this type, through a media report of some sort. It's only with hindsight we realise when it's been misrepresented - and if/when this is uncovered then we absolutely DO slag off the sources.
Information submitted according to BBC Sport Wales, the club prints a response, people express opinions, people believe and respond as they prefer.
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in the world of insurance there is a start date and time and an end date and time ...
this is to ensure continuity.. should your insurance lack on your car at say midnight on the 15th and you have a claim on the 16th @ say 0400hrs ... then technically you are uninsured until you speak to the insurance person and pay the sum for renewal or update. The insurance company is well within their right to say sorry ... the renewal or change to to your plan should have been done before the incident.
Whilst this is the simplistic method football is likely more complicated, for Cardiff to have the player insured they may have a policy that says " any subsequent player is insured from the moment they sign the player and send the details via "media" to the appropriate FA. OR any player that needs to be insured must follow the above but also to activate them on the insurance then the insurer must be advised before cover is activated.
Without knowing the exact wording of the policy then no one other than the parties can actually make a worthwhile comment.
this is to ensure continuity.. should your insurance lack on your car at say midnight on the 15th and you have a claim on the 16th @ say 0400hrs ... then technically you are uninsured until you speak to the insurance person and pay the sum for renewal or update. The insurance company is well within their right to say sorry ... the renewal or change to to your plan should have been done before the incident.
Whilst this is the simplistic method football is likely more complicated, for Cardiff to have the player insured they may have a policy that says " any subsequent player is insured from the moment they sign the player and send the details via "media" to the appropriate FA. OR any player that needs to be insured must follow the above but also to activate them on the insurance then the insurer must be advised before cover is activated.
Without knowing the exact wording of the policy then no one other than the parties can actually make a worthwhile comment.
Low
Shocking beyond belief
How embarrassing
Unbelievable
Not a good look
If it's so "unbelievable" why do you believe it? Answer - just because you want to.........
There's already a thread over here slagging the BBC off - now they're reporting something want to believe they're fine.
CCFC have published a response - that's if you're prepared to read it.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-190123
For balance, CCFC would say this though, wouldn't they? It's not like they would admit it if they did.... That then becomes blatant fraud.
It should be relatively straightforward to prove one way or another. Applications for insurance policies would have date and time stamps on them. It would be a 30 minute job at the most to prove which of either the BBC or CCFC is telling the truth.
They will probably try and say they filed it in somewhere like Hawaii as it's 13 hours behind the UK, to try and make it seem like it was the same day
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Of course they would - but the initial reports on Mailonline quoted by the BBC are just parroting what Miller's defence KC said in court - that's excellent investigative journalism for you.
Just for the record, I posted this on our forum just after the Beeb story broke yesterday..........
"These sensationalistic headlines taken from the mailonline could be ridiculous and a gross distortion of the facts. Rather than "trying to insure Sala" after the tragic event as they put it, I wouldn't be at all surprised if CCFC contacted the insurer to confirm he was actually insured believing that he was.
It would be mind-blowingly crass to attempt to insure a dead (or at that time missing) person after the event. The way this has been set out by the media, that would amount to fraud and I can't believe even the dimwits footballwise running the club would be that stupid in a business sense."
I don't think it's a simple as that R&W. The argument is with the broker's Millers not the insurance company itself.
CCFC believed (rightly or wrongly) that players who Cardiff acquired would be automatically covered. The initial dispute was whether Sala was actually a CCFC player contractually - that was the delay.
Since then CAS has ruled he was a Cardiff player at the time of his death then that is now fundamental to the case against the broker - until then there was no case bring to court..
Then it will all come down to the delay between the player signing and the Agent being informed so the insurance can be arranged.
Typically football player deals are kept secret until the very last minute - our own club is a classic example of that practice - it’s to stop clubs being ‘gazumped’ by a last minute bigger offer.
As soon as the signatures are written the agent would( (should) have been instructed to arrange cover.
Another question is; would that cover normally include the transportation of the new player via an aircraft piloted by an unqualified pilot?
I know that insurance companies are better at finding loopholes than an octopus escaping from a bottle.
At the end of the day, a human being lost his life and a HUGE amount of compensation will be payable by SOMEONE. That is why everyone is squabbling.
Surely if you spend that amount of money on a player you’d make sure he was covered on your insurance, we all know what assuming things does.