This is where you went wrong
Most English teams contend with mediocrity and relegation battles. Only the very few enjoy the spoils of trophies and european competitions. Good clubs like Bolton, Newcastle & Fulham etc would give everything to be in what United consider a worthless junior european cup competition.
Such is the hubris that is Manchester United, from the manager down to programme sellers and plastic armchair fans who couldn't find Manchester on a map of England for thousand pounds. This my friends is why your hated so much, not for your fantastic haul of trophies or riches but for your pomposity & arrogance to concieve that such a thing could happen.
Your red tinted glasses thickened with bravado blinded you so much you never saw it coming. That's why it hurts so much. Humble pie served in large portions will have you all showing a little more humility in no time.
Happy Thursdays![]()

Fulham are in it though![]()

Like Fulham, please read before engaing your fingers.![]()
I do love the Liverpool fans who complain we get lucky draws, then when it's pointed out that in their first two European Cups they played Crusaders, Trabzonspor, Saint-Ãtienne, FC Zürich, Dynamo Dresden, Benfica, Borussia Mönchengladbach and Club Brugge they claim that it was somehow different in the EC. Different standards, what?
I have the United supporters that cannot see they have been fairly fortubnate with the draw at times, sure Fergie shouted 'FIX' to the world when UNited got drawn with Real Madrid in the knockout stages. And those teams you mentioned, none were as bad as schalke![]()
Every team gets good draws, every team gets bad. I remember back in the mid 90s when we got stuck in the same group as Juve twice in a row and next season got Bayern and Barca and fans were crying fix. And what did we do? We won the thing!This season we get the "easy" draw and go out. Ultimately people who claim some teams only do as well as they do cos they get lucky draws are just talking out of their arse - you get the draw, you play the teams, everyone gets a bit of luck at some point, and you either win the trophy or you don't. End of.
P.S. Liverpool 6-1 FC Zurich says Zurich were a lot worse than Schalke. Even the Zurich goal was a dodgy penalty![]()
A lot of the stick is just because United were fortunate but some do forget finishing top of the group plays its part too.
Zurich Our liverpool from then would have beaten schalke 20 0, how, how how many chances did ye miss in both legs, I'd say Liverpool of then 30 0 over the two games, that's how bad schalke were, Rooney and Hernandez should ave had 4 each but for poor poor finishing, you watched the first leg right? not even a training match, a sunday kickabout![]()
Aye, but we were fortunate this season and how did that work out again? A fortunate draw can't make up for a sub standard team - Inter got the same "fortunate draw" against Schalke last season and bye bye Inter...
I'm pretty sure the first leg for you guys vs Zurich was the same - didn't your guys just play keep ball for the last twenty mins knowing that Zurich would never score three at Anfield? And even then the Swiss didn't get a sight of goal. Tho' that was probably as much to do with how good your 77 team was I guess - hard to objectively compare two teams across 35 years.
U will be ok Alan most r plastic anyway !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
life goes on .. last time we went out 6 years ago with new side, we come back stronger and dominated EPL and europe 3 finals in 4 years..
we have best manager who kept doing that over and over. so sure we will
remember there is fairplay rules too now, and even barca and Real will stop spending alot on players and crazy wages, so actually we will have even better chance in upcoming years. Chelsea & Man $hity days are over, let them enjoy it, it will be just this season or next one maximum, so let them have their time.
Rubbish. City have until at least 2014/15 to meet FFP and Chelsea already have
They hope to show Uefa a "trend" towards breaking even by 2014-15 even if the losses have not been sufficiently staunched.
Kyle?
your post is even better readin .........
now onto serious matters ..
Dont start givin it the big un when clearly Arsenal fans r just startin to crawl from under there stones !
Ye man utd gone out and man city but it shows where the prem is at ...
and lets get this rite after all the hardwork that has gone on to qualify for the knockout stages in the europa league in pops tossa like urs lot to get a 2nd chance of a cup !!! losers !!
Please reply on a postage stamp !!!!!!
Arsenal are ****. Porto never beat foreign teams. Chelsea are bottlers in Europe. You played an injured and **** Inter who even Sampdoria could beat 3-0.
So well done on beating Barcelona 1-0... before getting schooled in 2 finals by them.
Already forgotten about last night?