So you are admitting the likliehood is the same that he did or didn't but you are saying he didn't based on that nobody can prove it's true. Double standards?
A bit of respect?
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I don't know what happened with the Americans, and you won't find a single person that does.
You are basing your argument on pure speculation with zero facts.
Anyone can start a rumour, and it's not fair to base an opinion on someone using that rumour.
So you don't know either way then? Until you can give me verifiable facts I don't believe you.
I feel sorry for SD he was close to fulfilling his and the supporters hopes in his first season, a miracle really when you look back on it, and last seasons fiasco was not of his making either, but brought about by the incompetence of the idiots who run the league, allowing self interest to over-ride fair play. We could do worse than sticking behind the current owner and not insulting the man until he decides to leave imo.
Yeah just like you I don't know either way.
Hence why I'm not chucking unproven accusations at people.
If we get new owners I hope they are great like every fan wants.
But god help them if an unfounded rumour starts about them, because people like you will jump straight on their backs.
First half of the first season, I agree with you he halted a very rapid financial decline of SAFC. His greatest achievement in my opinion was offloading the high earners who had no interest in being at the club but were on wages that few clubs could match and also sorting out the court cases of Ndong, Djilobodji and Alvarez
Then his craving for attention and constant appearances in the media exposed the disingenuous nature of his funding of the purchase. If he was honest from day one (a) how much he paid for the club and (b) how he financed the purchase I would have accepted that because of the financial mess the club was in, but he lied, deflected and changed his story each time he appeared in the media. He took his eye off the ball with Maja (I don’t blame Donald for Maja leaving in January, I blame him for not securing a contract in the first couple of weeks of the season before he established himself in the first team).
Unfortunately in his haste to turn a profit, his performance as an owner last season and to date is deplorable and the sooner him and his cronies have gone the sooner the club can begin to repair the damage they have caused.
Agree with a lot of that.
Regarding Maja. He had done little until the goals he started to bang in, and by then he was well into the final year of his contract.
Yes, he could have done better, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
If Maja was handed a big contract when SD walked through the door, and went on to flop, we would have another unwanted high earning player stuck at the club.
Big new contracts were a sensitive thing at our club, at that time.
No contract, Big contract? there is always somewhere between. It was obvious that Maja was a prospect and deserved an offer. Donald himself said that, but went on to admit that he prioritised other, more senior signings and contracts. I believe that Maja would have signed a contract if offered, before he hit the first team.
Yes possibly.
Again, it's hindsight.
Is SD responsible for the error? Yes, but not on the scale some say.
I do agree with you. Hindsight is always in 20/20 vision and Donald had other priorities such as the court cases, building a squad for his first season and getting rid of high earners who had no interest in playing for us
I can dispute it, and I will.
When he came in we had 2 years of parachute payments. We had money to come in from the sales of Khazri, Borini, Kone. We had all fans on side, all excited at where we could go. We had no debt. We had an opportunity to build a young side, with a certain footballing style and philosophy.
2 years on were still in this league. We’ve no sellable assets. We’ve no parachute money. We’ve got a £9m loan. We’ve very, very few academy prospects to step into the side. We’ve a manager very few wanted.
Before he came in we were riddled with debt and a high wage bill. The parachute payments wouldn't have solved either of those issues.
Our year in the championship under short, how much of the parachute money did we spend?
How many saleable assets did we have when SD took over?
Many people believed PP was the right man around January time.
How many other buyers were interested in taking us from short?
Certainly not FPP who were brought to the table under SD ownership.
Would FPP have brought the club under the mess of 2 seasons ago, before the financial side was sorted by SD? They were nowhere to be seen.
We were debt free because Short paid it off. Donald has now got us a £9m loan whilst owing the club millions himself.
Nobody knows how FPP came to the table. Rumours are they were introduced by O’Briens, but that’s just rumours. Just like Donald getting them is rumours.
I couldn’t give a shiny ****e how many believed PP was a good appointment around January time. He was apparently brought in to get promotion, he failed. He was brought in because he was cheap. A telling summary of the last 2 years - cheap
You said Donald had us debt free when in fact he got the club debt free and the went and got us into debt with a 9m loan.
Anyway I shouldn't have got into this cause I think youre just trying to wind people up and I'm not gonna bite, just rejoice in the fact we'll soon have new owners and the fat dwarf will be gone
The club being debt free would have been because of SDs negotiations with short when buying the club.
But yeah, happy to end the convo here.
Ah yes. You must’ve been there. Short cleared all of the debt. Donald, as mentioned, got the club debt free. Who you hold responsible is pure conjecture. I see Short as responsible. You see Donald (or, possibly, use it to push your argument).
in reality, he has got us into £9m of debt. He has also, in my book, stolen £20m from the club with those “exceptional operating expenses”.
He sucked everyone in with his lies at the start. Praying the takeover is sorted soon!
The debt is owed to FPP, who most are praying take over the club.
Yes terrible move from Donald.
As I've said before I want SD gone, but the abuse he has suffered and is getting currently, is showing us up as supporters.
He's been nowhere near perfect, but if we end up in the hands of billionaires there should be no nastiness towards him.