9th July 2012

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The date is set, the trial will begin with John Terrys defence having pleaded not guilty on his behalf today.

Interested to see what happens here and see what the evidence shows.

As I have always stated he is innocent until proven guilty, but I would take a dim view of him if it was proven to be the case.
 
So no games missed and maximum fine of £2,500 <doh>

Wouldn't be surprised if it was Terry himself who reported it to the police, far better than what the FA would do.

Honestly, have you read anything about this or are you just on the wind up?

The fine is related to the Crown Prosecution Service, and the trial that they will conduct.

What the FA do after that is another story, but the recent Suarez case has set a precedent so it is possible that he will face having a criminal record and a prolonged suspension from the game.
 
Honestly, have you read anything about this or are you just on the wind up?

The fine is related to the Crown Prosecution Service, and the trial that they will conduct.

What the FA do after that is another story, but the recent Suarez case has set a precedent so it is possible that he will face having a criminal record and a prolonged suspension from the game.

Scousers can't do this <ok>
 
Yes I have read about it, and I honestly think Terry will be far better off for having the courts involved.

The procedures that took place in the Suarez FA trial would have a real court case thrown out for contempt, e.g. evidence only allowed to be reviewed by the prosecution before providing witness statements.

The courts have no political agenda (trying to show themselves as serious about racism in contrast to Platini). The procedures and standards will be much higher.

If Terry is found to be not guilty (likely due to higher standard of proof), the FA will do nothing to him.

If he is found to be guilty, the FA will give him a 4 match ban (claiming Suarez's was 4 matches x 2 for multiple uses of the word, even though said multiple uses were on the word of Evra alone) and a fine of about £20,000.

So Terry is in a no-lose situation relative to Suarez, despite there being video evidence against him as opposed to the inconsistent testimony of Evra alone against Suarez.

So let's look at it like this:
assuming he is guilty, Terry can risk paying a measly £2500 extra by going to court and taking the chance that the higher standards there will lead to a not guilty verdict and overrule a £20,000 (approx) fine and 4 match ban.

£2500 for a good chance of cancelling out £20,000 and 4 matches is a great bet.

Hence my original claim that it would have made sense for Terry to make the complaint to the police himself.

Also, by taking it to a real court then entire thing is delayed and he gets to finish the PL and even play the Euros before any ban can come in. There is then an entire summer transfer window to find a replacement, which they would do anyway due to his age.

You're forgetting one thing though....Suarez actually admitted using the language that led to his ban. Therefore FA had no choice but to ban him. If Terry admitted using such language FA would ban him too but he hasn't so innocent unless proven otherwise.
 
Thats a long old wait to be proved innoncent, feel sorry for JT. O well least he'll still be on a high after we win the CL in May :P
 
Is anyone who isn't a chavs fan surprised by this? How convenient this case has been pushed to the 9th of July.
 
I note that one of the Klanfield mob had poked his nose into this business.

They probably see themselves as something as experts on this subject <whistle>
 
Is anyone who isn't a chavs fan surprised by this? How convenient this case has been pushed to the 9th of July.



I've started a thread on the Spurs board calling for the FA to ensure that Terry does not take any part in the Euros 2012.

To have Terry playing, let alone captaining England, would be highly provocative, and could render us a bigger laughingstock than we usually are.
 
Is anyone who isn't a chavs fan surprised by this? How convenient this case has been pushed to the 9th of July.

How is it convenient? Means he has it hanging over him the entire season rather than getting it resolved early.

What exactly are you trying to say?? That the Court have listed the date to help Chelsea in some way. FFS.
 
I've started a thread on the Spurs board calling for the FA to ensure that Terry does not take any part in the Euros 2012.

To have Terry playing, let alone captaining England, would be highly provocative, and could render us a bigger laughingstock than we usually are.

We might aswell not even play the euros then, who we gunna play instead dawson or king ? <laugh> we'd leak more goals than ****ing san marino <laugh>

Innoncent untill proven guilty hoddle mate
 
When you consider how much racism there is in football across europe especially in Baltics & Spain how is playing JT during his trial likely to make us a laughing stock?
 
I've started a thread on the Spurs board calling for the FA to ensure that Terry does not take any part in the Euros 2012.

To have Terry playing, let alone captaining England, would be highly provocative, and could render us a bigger laughingstock than we usually are.

And as opposed to doorman beater Ledley King, drug cheat Rio, granny shagger Rooney, DJ decking Gerrard, Andy Carroll, Ashley Cole, etc.

There are plenty of unsavioury characters and incidents with England players. Why just target Terry? Especially when yet to be found guilty?
 
I've started a thread on the Spurs board calling for the FA to ensure that Terry does not take any part in the Euros 2012.

To have Terry playing, let alone captaining England, would be highly provocative, and could render us a bigger laughingstock than we usually are.

Well said.

How is it convenient? Means he has it hanging over him the entire season rather than getting it resolved early.

What exactly are you trying to say?? That the Court have listed the date to help Chelsea in some way. FFS.

No, to have a man captain England who allegedly made racist comments is a joke and insult to England. If he is found innocent, it's better to get it over and done with now rather for it to linger over the whole England team. If the FA did have any sense, they'd make sure Terry doesn't play for England or represent them in any way.
 
And as opposed to doorman beater Ledley King, drug cheat Rio, granny shagger Rooney, DJ decking Gerrard, Andy Carroll, Ashley Cole, etc.

There are plenty of unsavioury characters and incidents with England players. Why just target Terry? Especially when yet to be found guilty?




Indeed. I'd get rid of the lot of them and pick a completely new bunch (with a different manager, of course).
 
Well said.



No, to have a man captain England who allegedly made racist comments is a joke and insult to England. If he is found innocent, it's better to get it over and done with now rather for it to linger over the whole England team. If the FA did have any sense, they'd make sure Terry doesn't play for England or represent them in any way.

But what if England drop Terry, and then he gets proven innoncent?
 
I've started a thread on the Spurs board calling for the FA to ensure that Terry does not take any part in the Euros 2012.

To have Terry playing, let alone captaining England, would be highly provocative, and could render us a bigger laughingstock than we usually are.

Well the final of said competition is 8 days prior to his case being heard, or at least the first day of it, so I reckon you could be fat out of luck there.
 
I've started a thread on the Spurs board calling for the FA to ensure that Terry does not take any part in the Euros 2012.

To have Terry playing, let alone captaining England, would be highly provocative, and could render us a bigger laughingstock than we usually are.

It would be better than having any Spurs players playing <ok>