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PleaseNotPoll said:
Depends on what the conspiracy actually is.
Saudi Arabia's role in the whole thing, for example, is quite an easy one to support.
The suggestion that the intelligence services had some knowledge that it could happen is another.
Da Jews Dun It? Not so much.
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Yeah this.

The problem with Abe and these topics is that if you disagree with anything he says he automatically assumes you're right on the other end of the scale and take everything at face value.

The vast majority of people can make a decision on each individual topic. Rather than either saying everything is sound or everything isn't.
 
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I find it interesting that the same people who believe one conspiracy theory tend to believe all the conspiracy theories...

... Then they call everyone else gullible.


"COVID is a hoax", "vaccines are nefarious", "911 was an inside plot". Believe one cuckoo scheme and you believe them all.
 
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“When one side only of a story is heard and often repeated, the human mind becomes impressed with it insensibly” – George Washinton, Letter to Edmund Pendleton (22 January 1795)
 
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Milky said:
I find it interesting that the same people who believe one conspiracy theory tend to believe all the conspiracy theories...

... Then they call everyone else gullible.


"COVID is a hoax", "vaccines are nefarious", "911 was an inside plot". Believe one cuckoo scheme and you believe them all.
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You forgot the food industry in cahoots with the chemical industry by adding carcinogenics to our foods making cancer rise like never before which then makes us a target for big pharmaceutical products to treat us....at a price of course
 
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I've been to the ground 0 museum it's really emotional in there. Think I've said before, that was the only day in my life I've gone into work voluntarily.
 
I was in the Maldives eating Italian food at the time.......really fkd with my flight home it did.......so fking selfish of them :emoticon-0147-emo:
 
Milky said:
I find it interesting that the same people who believe one conspiracy theory tend to believe all the conspiracy theories...

... Then they call everyone else gullible.


"COVID is a hoax", "vaccines are nefarious", "911 was an inside plot". Believe one cuckoo scheme and you believe them all.
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This <ok>

Definitely a rabbit hole when it comes to a lot of conspiracy theories. You mistrust once aspect of a story and suddenly everything is a lie and a cover up.

It doesn't work like this. We know Govt's and Corporations conspire to cover things up, but most of what is exposed is done so by good investigative journalism, not Billy Bob uploading YouTube vids in his trailer in Arkansas.
 
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PINKIE said:
This <ok>

Definitely a rabbit hole when it comes to a lot of conspiracy theories. You mistrust once aspect of a story and suddenly everything is a lie and a cover up.

It doesn't work like this. We know Govt's and Corporations conspire to cover things up, but most of what is exposed is done so by good investigative journalism, not Billy Bob uploading YouTube vids in his trailer in Arkansas.
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Totally disagree with what you just said.....apart from the government cover ups claim of course
 
aberdude said:
Totally disagree with what you just said.....apart from the government cover ups claim of course
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It's a generalisation, and I know it's nuanced. But you do see a lot of people who get sucked into paranoid thinking and then start seeing conspiracies where none exist. The whole state of mind kind of feeds on itself, because when you become that distrustful of everything, you end up seeking out confirmation bias to support your views, of which the internet is littered with.

I know this works both ways, so keep an open mind is my approach, but don't swallow the bullshit. <ok>
 
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The old, they are pumping us full of chemicals.

What do they think water is......Thats right folks. Or my fave for Abe, the amount of nitrogen we inhale.
 
I’d rather be wrong now and again and not deprive my mind of asking me the but what if’ questions…I think it’s survival instinct and I wouldn’t want it drained out of me through years of being told someone else knows better.

I appreciate the conspiracy theorists, especially when it comes to exposing organisations…seems like they keep everyone on their toes.
 
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Spurlock said:
I’d rather be wrong now and again and not deprive my mind of asking me the but what if’ questions…I think it’s survival instinct and I wouldn’t want it drained out of me through years of being told someone else knows better.

I appreciate the conspiracy theorists, especially when it comes to exposing organisations…seems like they keep everyone on their toes.
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People die because of the bullshit that they spread bro. That's the ultimate price anybody can pay and the reason I can't give them the time of day. They helped put HIAG in a box. Harsh but true.

There's a world of difference between being suspicious of governments and questioning their motives and believing every single event that happens in life is a conspiracy. Any rational person would move away from the jet fuel not being hot enough to bend steel after watching that youtube video brb posted. A conspiracy theorist will ignore that video and plough on regardless trying to convince others of their belief in that theory.

Hospitals in America are full of rednecks who have been literally ingesting horse worming juice because they've seen on the Internet that it can help cure/prevent Covid.

Dangerous people imo and it's largely, but not always, the least educated and school drop outs that get sucked into that world.
 
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PINKIE said:
It's a generalisation, and I know it's nuanced. But you do see a lot of people who get sucked into paranoid thinking and then start seeing conspiracies where none exist. The whole state of mind kind of feeds on itself, because when you become that distrustful of everything, you end up seeking out confirmation bias to support your views, of which the internet is littered with.

I know this works both ways, so keep an open mind is my approach, but don't swallow the bullshit. <ok>
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I agree with what you say
 
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Saff said:
People die because of the bullshit that they spread bro. That's the ultimate price anybody can pay and the reason I can't give them the time of day. They helped but HIAG in a box. Harsh but true.

There's a world of difference between being suspicious of governments and questioning their motives and believing every single event that happens in life is a conspiracy. Any rational person would move away from the jet fuel not being hot enough to bend steel after watching that youtube video brb posted. A conspiracy theorist will ignore that video and plough on regardless trying to convince others of their belief in that theory.

Hospitals in America are full of rednecks who have been literally ingesting horse worming juice because they've seen on the Internet that it can help cure/prevent Covid.

Dangerous people imo and it's largely, but not always, the least educated and school drop outs that get sacked into that world.
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i get you about people getting sucked in

I just enjoy two sides playing off with each other for the benefit of my knowledge and education
 
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Spurlock said:
I’d rather be wrong now and again and not deprive my mind of asking me the but what if’ questions…I think it’s survival instinct and I wouldn’t want it drained out of me through years of being told someone else knows better.

I appreciate the conspiracy theorists, especially when it comes to exposing organisations…seems like they keep everyone on their toes.
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Thing is we know if it wasn't for so called conspiracy people there would never be alternative evidence raised and questions asked
 
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jet fuel not being hot enough to bend steel

So what specs did this guy have for his steel he used........why I say this is because the company that produced the steel for the twin towers stated that they went over and above abord with the safety specs that are also designed to take an impact from a passenger plane.
 
How does yield strength change with temperature is a question I see?

Well I did less materials at Uni and focused on other areas. The majority of materials will see a decrease in yield strength with increasing temperature, in metals I understand that this makes permanent plastic deformation easier, the material no longer operating in its elastic limits and suffering permeant deformation.

Sure I could find the equation, apply second moment of area on the beam profile and then the loading that would cause failure being lower at increase temperature over a base of say 20°C. But I'm busy eating an apple
 
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