Off Topic 3rd vaccine passed

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MrRAWhite said:
All good news. My issue is that already our government are going against expert advice in the timescales of the second doses. Is this another political decision to deal with numbers given the vaccinations rather than following the guidelines of between 21 and a maximum of 28 days between the first and second doses?
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So you won't have a problem with how the government have handled this pandemic because they've followed the expert advice?
 
The UK's chief medical officers have defended the Covid vaccination plan, after criticism from a doctors' union.

The UK will give both parts of the Oxford and Pfizer vaccines 12 weeks apart, having initially planned to leave 21 days between the Pfizer jabs.

The British Medical Association said cancelling patients booked in for their second doses was "grossly unfair".

But the chief medical officers said getting more people vaccinated with the first jab "is much more preferable".
 
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Saff said:
So you won't have a problem with how the government have handled this pandemic because they've followed the expert advice?
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No they haven't.. They have cherrypicked bits that suit their agenda. The vast majority of expert advice was telling the government that the slackening of rules over Christmas would be a disaster and that schools are the principle areas where the virus is being transmitted. The same goes for the way the vaccines are being administered. The viral experts from WHO are totally against delaying the second dozes.
 
MrRAWhite said:
I just see them changing the rules from what the creators of the virus and independent experts are saying. I agree that the government's changes are merely based on hope and guess work though.
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It’s not the government. It’s the Joint Committee on vaccination and immunisation. Google it and it has the members listed. They are independent of the government, and the plan makes perfect sense.
 
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MrRAWhite said:
And in other news the cow did in fact jump over the moon.
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Ok so you’re an internet troll? Or a bairn. I won’t bother trying to interact either you again. On the outside chance you’re not just a troll. Google the JCVI and do a little research Before spouting your utter nonsense man.
 
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Draig said:
If it wasn't for the UK variant virus currently zipping through big sections of the population then I'm sure they would stick with the recommended 2 jabs per person and it is a sign of their desperation that they have gone with a single jab.

They could also be having one eye on the South Africa variant - which is frightening in that it is quite close to making a jump that will let it evade the antibodies generated in response to having been naturally infected or having had one of the vaccines. If that, no it isn't if, it is when that jump happens then they will need to reformulate the vaccine and do everyone all over again.

Nobody is saying this out loud yet, but with the speed of variation shown, we are almost certainly looking at needing new Covid vaccinations every 12 to 18 months.
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We'll be needing to vaccinate against this thing for years to come. The sooner we all accept we're going to need to live with it mid-long term, rather than rushing to make short-term fixes that fail, the better. The government are in a really difficult position, but a lot of problems are of their own making eg lack of NHS capacity/administration
 
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Nordic said:
We'll be needing to vaccinate against this thing for years to come. The sooner we all accept we're going to need to live with it mid-long term, rather than rushing to make short-term fixes that fail, the better. The government are in a really difficult position, but a lot of problems are of their own making eg lack of NHS capacity/administration
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One thing I can see happening is a multi strain covid vaccine being developed, similar to the flu jab (and possibly a combi flu-covid vaccine).
 
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Draig said:
One thing I can see happening is a multi strain covid vaccine being developed, similar to the flu jab (and possibly a combi flu-covid vaccine).
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You would hope they're already working on it. I have no idea what the probability/effectiveness is of creating a vaccine that can cover almost all permeatations, but we're going to have to accept a higher death rate while we get the balance right and build better long-term coping capacity.

What amazes & dissappoints me is how our experts did not think through the fact that vaccinating more people with a first jab would provide better coverage than the double-jab route against a virus that is bound to mutate.
 
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Mrs just tested positive. Works for the NHS and didn't get the vaccine yet
 
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