Off Topic 3rd vaccine passed

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MrRAWhite said:
That is the claim, which in itself reduces the effectiveness by around 25%, but as the WHO vaccine stated, it has never been tested in this way to any extent, so just guess work by our government.
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Astrazeneca claim that a single dose will give the 70% efficacy as I've already posted but I've also read that those 30% that will develop symptoms will not need hospital treatment. They claim the symptoms will be much reduced although they also say that the 30% will still pass on the virus if they are not isolated. The Government say this will make a big difference to how well the NHS will cope this year.

Like Gordon said this is all guesswork but also well informed guesswork.
 
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old lads fan said:
Astrazeneca claim that a single dose will give the 70% efficacy as I've already posted but I've also read that those 30% that will develop symptoms will not need hospital treatment. They claim the symptoms will be much reduced although they also say that the 30% will still pass on the virus if they are not isolated. The Government say this will make a big difference to how well the NHS will cope this year.

Like Gordon said this is all guesswork but also well informed guesswork.
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I just see them changing the rules from what the creators of the virus and independent experts are saying. I agree that the government's changes are merely based on hope and guess work though.
 
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MrRAWhite said:
Why go against the advice of when the doses are given in order to boost the numbers vaccinated? If the people who created the vaccines say that the doses should be given between 21 and 28 days apart, then that is what should be happening.
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Canny few consultants I know are incredibly pissed off with this. Massively so in fact
 
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old lads fan said:
Th claim is if you give one vaccine you get about 70% of the benefit that you would get with both vaccines given. The Government say if they can vaccinate twice as many people first that is better for the population as a whole. It's better to have twice the population with 70% efficacy than half of the population with 95% efficacy. If you remember with the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine tests they achieved 70% efficacy after one full dose then gave a second injection of half a dose and achieved 90%+ efficacy.
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I'm pretty sure the UK gov's already know that, once one vaccine is approved, the other competitors in the market will move heaven and earth to get theirs approved also, they're so afraid of missing the boat in what is/will be the most lucrative gift they've ever been given. In a very short time ( only weeks I reckon) there will be maybe 6 - 10 approved vaccines available to any country, and by the time people are due to have their 2nd jab, it will be available at most pharmacy's, just like the flu jab. The drug companies are just about as business savvy as you can get, they won't miss a trick if there's profits to be made here, I think we're about to see the politicians put on to the back burner by huge drug companies taking over this pandemic 'cure', so the queues we envisage now will be smaller and more widespread as more players enter the vaccination market. See the 3rd vaccine approved today, the rest will follow thick and fast.
 
MrRAWhite said:
Exactly.. An expert in vaccinations from WHO said much the same thing.. That is why I'm suspicious about the government's motives. Do they just want to say they have met their targets regarding numbers?
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....or the daft ego-trip that they are world beating in every way, the bunch of egotistical tossers.

The UK doesn't have the most difficult health/demographic position to contend with , versus other European countries, but we're looking a bit ****ed when it comes to the national debt. It's a rash attempt to get business up and running, but I have limited faith in this administration to get it right
 
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MrRAWhite said:
All good news. My issue is that already our government are going against expert advice in the timescales of the second doses. Is this another political decision to deal with numbers given the vaccinations rather than following the guidelines of between 21 and a maximum of 28 days between the first and second doses?
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If it wasn't for the UK variant virus currently zipping through big sections of the population then I'm sure they would stick with the recommended 2 jabs per person and it is a sign of their desperation that they have gone with a single jab.

They could also be having one eye on the South Africa variant - which is frightening in that it is quite close to making a jump that will let it evade the antibodies generated in response to having been naturally infected or having had one of the vaccines. If that, no it isn't if, it is when that jump happens then they will need to reformulate the vaccine and do everyone all over again.

Nobody is saying this out loud yet, but with the speed of variation shown, we are almost certainly looking at needing new Covid vaccinations every 12 to 18 months.
 
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