Off Topic 2019 GE

[Saf]

The independents are taking over south Tyneside mate. I was going to run in Primrose but haven’t been able to find the time to make a start nor be able to campaign going forward. Labour are dead round there.

They're, mate. Labour will lose seats there for the first time ever, I suspect.

Anybody who has a whiff of interest in politics should jump in because there's no greater time to break through. People are looking for change from Labour so the person appealing most to the masses will come out with a new cracking little job.

 

[Saf]

This guy got voted in as a councillor. That's how much they hate Labour now


https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/man-drives-truck-jarrow-firm-1397453

 

[Bank of England 2]

Much as I agree with what you say, this particular General Election will, in many places, be treated like 'The Peoples Vote' some MP's have been asking for.
In effect another referendum.

And had you said to ME when the last referendum was held that I would be voting for Farage in the future I confess that I'd have thought you to be nuts.

But general election or not this looks like a one issue event.
And I'll vote for what's most likely to get Brexit DONE.

Once it's over the reason for Farage's party will be none existent and they can all disappear back into the woodwork.

Incidentally, those good people fighting Hitler you referred to were doing so to avoid being ruled by Germany.
Their own fathers had done the same 30 years earlier and go back a few more generations to find the ones fighting against French domination.
Funny how history keeps repeating itself!!

David Cameron described the referendum as 'The Peoples Vote' in 2016. 17 million 'people' voted to leave, but it was proven to not be the peoples vote, as the process has been held up by 650 odd muppets in a building in London.

 

[Comfy]

In my area I don’t know who’s running for which party, saying I’m all for brexit and I shall be taking a good look at the brexit party candidate.

 

[MrRAWhite]

Not a fan of Corbyn and certain members of his shadow cabinet, but still a hundred times better option than the current rabble..

 

[clockstander]

Detest the Tory Party, greedy, exploitative pigs, who fought tooth and nail to stop the abolition of slavery, the working classes having any vote, the minimum wage and of course introduced zero hours contracts, which they tell us is good for us, while raking in their ill gotten gains. A rich privileged elite born to divide and rule the ignorant peasants whom they despise. Having created this mess, they are already trying to blame anyone but themselves, first the EU and now all of the opposition parties, it stinks. I'm voting Green by the way, not that it will make any difference, other than making me feel better.

 

[Class of 73]

It may be all partisan voting again, methinks, but I hope people will start to actually listen to what each party offers and then hold them to account if that party enters office. What short memories we have of labour’s last stint in No10!
I voted labor under Tony Blier, where there was a groundswell of good feeling and support. With the likes of Diane Abbot, (WTF) John, Trotsky, McDonnell, Laura piddocks ( brainwashed from birth) and of course Mr (pushed to the front from the Momentum shadows) Corbyn, what could possibly go wrong with them in control?
Add in the SNP, threatening anyone whom stands against them, will have Putin giggling to himself at the division in our society. Who else?
Brexit party...... complete unknown in Government, they could actually hand the keys to Corbyn
Libel dimocrats.....nuff said
Conservatives.........The only thing I can say is that he has absolutely nailed his intentions to the mast, we can only wait to see if the ship is the Ark Royal....or the titanic
The greens: fantastic intentions, reality is there would be mass murder if they tried to change everything to their way of thinking as there are too many people entrenched in their own way of life.
Reality?......we are all well and truly feked anyway, as the ice is melting far faster than ever predicted. Those that are left will be fighting for land around the mountains
Scottish passport it is then

 

[The Ides of March]

I remember doing a stadium tour of the Stadium of Light. The guide took us on a 360 degree tour of the ground and to every level. He took us down a staircase and hanging there was a banner of the miners. Which colliery I do not know. On that basis alone, that should deter any self-respecting supporter from voting Tory. Brexit party are a distraction and will fail to get any seats. As for the rest vote to keep out the Tory.

 

[polyphemus]

Not a fan of Corbyn and certain members of his shadow cabinet, but still a hundred times better option than the current rabble..

But time after time the citizens of The United Kingdom have shown a marked reluctance to support the political extremes.
And however 'middle of the road' Jeremy tries to appear, his history and perceived anti Semitism is against him.
Add to this that his shadow chancellor stands over his shoulder like a puppet master pulling the strings, and he will only command the left wing support of the extremists, the very people who put the rest of us off, and those who will vote Labour under all circumstances.
And if what we are told is happening in South Tyneside is happening elsewhere in the Socialist Heartlands, then even this may not be what it was.

Leading the Left Wing even such an honest person as Michael Foot couldn't dislodge someone as unpleasant as Maggie.
Neither could the Mr Kinnock.
But the apparent middle of the road Tony Blair got rid of the Tories and stayed in power for ten years.

Surely that tells you something.

 

[MrRAWhite]

But time after time the citizens of The United Kingdom have shown a marked reluctance to support the political extremes.
And however 'middle of the road' Jeremy tries to appear, his history and perceived anti Semitism is against him.
Add to this that his shadow chancellor stands over his shoulder like a puppet master pulling the strings, and he will only command the left wing support of the extremists, the very people who put the rest of us off, and those who will vote Labour under all circumstances.
And if what we are told is happening in South Tyneside is happening elsewhere in the Socialist Heartlands, then even this may not be what it was.

Leading the Left Wing even such an honest person as Michael Foot couldn't dislodge someone as unpleasant as Maggie.
Neither could the Mr Kinnock.
But the apparent middle of the road Tony Blair got rid of the Tories and stayed in power for ten years.

Surely that tells you something.

We live in strange times when the middle ground has all but vanished, so anything could happen..

 

[polyphemus]

I remember doing a stadium tour of the Stadium of Light. The guide took us on a 360 degree tour of the ground and to every level. He took us down a staircase and hanging there was a banner of the miners. Which colliery I do not know. On that basis alone, that should deter any self-respecting supporter from voting Tory. Brexit party are a distraction and will fail to get any seats. As for the rest vote to keep out the Tory.

Would you really have preferred it had The Pit's stayed open?
The way they closed may have been brutal and callous, but as places to work they must have been hell on earth.

Their time was coming to an end in any case as we, slowly, try to recover the Planet from the effects of burning fossil fuels.

The pit closures also meant an end to queues of people at pit gates waiting for news as yet another pit disaster unraveled.

And while it's easy to sympathise with those who remember the comradeship amongst the miners, I remember how my late father in law used to cough his gut up with the dust in his lungs that carried him off not long after he retired.
And I've never yet heard any woman say that her ambition for her son was to see him go down the pit.

Following the pit closures there are many people in this area who are going to live much longer and healthier lives.

It's just possible that future historians will look at the Pit Closures and see Maggie, not as The Wicked Witch but as The Good Fairy.

And with that ironic thought I'll close for today.

 

[MrRAWhite]

Would you really have preferred it had The Pit's stayed open?
The way they closed may have been brutal and callous, but as places to work they must have been hell on earth.

Their time was coming to an end in any case as we, slowly, try to recover the Planet from the effects of burning fossil fuels.

The pit closures also meant an end to queues of people at pit gates waiting for news as yet another pit disaster unraveled.

And while it's easy to sympathise with those who remember the comradeship amongst the miners, I remember how my late father in law used to cough his gut up with the dust in his lungs that carried him off not long after he retired.
And I've never yet heard any woman say that her ambition for her son was to see him go down the pit.

Following the pit closures there are many people in this area who are going to live much longer and healthier lives.

It's just possible that future historians will look at the Pit Closures and see Maggie, not as The Wicked Witch but as The Good Fairy.

And with that ironic thought I'll close for today.

I agree the pits needed to close to reduce carbon emissions. However, at that time we had no alternative and the coal was being imported that created an even bigger carbon footprint..

 

[Class of 73]

For my twopenn’th - born & bred S/land lad with a dad that worked both in the shipyards & the pit (Vane Tempest). I am through & through Socialist and if I was a believer I would say Christian Socialist.
Brought up in Pennywell with a (large) flock of siblings. Never the less managed to get a good education ( university) now live abroad and have a great standard of living. But I cannot forget my roots.
All ALL our current laws that protect the working man come from Europe. Boris Trump will ditch them all.
We will go back to the days of waiting outside of the workplace gates begging for A DAYS WORK. we already have zero hours contracts - bloody hell l really really can’t understand a working person earning less than 50/60 thousand voting Tory never mind Farage the fascist (fooking hell why did so many good men die fighting Hitler only for their children/grandchildren to piss on their graves and vote Farage.
Rant over - it’s time for some good caring party to try their luck. Not saying they are perfect by any means. But can’t vote for an inveterate liar and woman mistreater such as Boris Trump.
K. T. F.

Ummm, zero hour contracts have been around for decades, we are in Europe and both labour and tories have been in power.
If you were to watch Simon Reeves documentary about the Med, you will see where European countries, such as Spain, don’t give a flying f*ck about workers rights. Blatantly and openly hiring illegal immigrants on their farms, where workers regularly die in atrocious working conditions.
The people of the UK all stood together to fight fascism, which is again rife in many parts of Europe. There is more in this country that unites us than divides us, but politicking is a way of trying to drive wedges in societies.
One thing is for sure this country is where many still wish to come, they are lining the shores of France wanting to get here, which doesn’t say a lot for France does it.
Oh and finally, how many European countries are on the brink of ruin..... because of the piss poor management and policies of the EU.....have a chat with the people of Greece, Italy and Portugal.

 

[monty987]

I got me manifestos caught in a lift once and havent been the same since.

 

[MrRAWhite]

Ummm, zero hour contracts have been around for decades, we are in Europe and both labour and tories have been in power.
If you were to watch Simon Reeves documentary about the Med, you will see where European countries, such as Spain, don’t give a flying f*ck about workers rights. Blatantly and openly hiring illegal immigrants on their farms, where workers regularly die in atrocious working conditions.
The people of the UK all stood together to fight fascism, which is again rife in many parts of Europe. There is more in this country that unites us than divides us, but politicking is a way of trying to drive wedges in societies.
One thing is for sure this country is where many still wish to come, they are lining the shores of France wanting to get here, which doesn’t say a lot for France does it.
Oh and finally, how many European countries are on the brink of ruin..... because of the piss poor management and policies of the EU.....have a chat with the people of Greece, Italy and Portugal.

Zero hours contracts have increased at least 10 fold under the Tories which is the issue..

 

[Saf]

Zero hours contracts have increased at least 10 fold under the Tories which is the issue..

Most folk on zero hours contracts prefer to be on them for the flexibility it gives.

 

[RTB]

Zero hours contracts have increased at least 10 fold under the Tories which is the issue..

I work for my own personal services company and effectively have zero hour contracts with my clients. If there is no more work I have to look for a new client - I don't get paid for holidays or sick leave.
I do have a good daily rate but the current Tory government seem hell bent on going after the little guy instead of big corporates. They are trying to force me (and many others) into a PAYE job that I don't really want.

Most folk on zero hours contracts prefer to be on them for the flexibility it gives.

I love it - I can choose who I want to work for and for how long. I can work from home and as long as the work gets done the client is happy.

As to the election, I don't trust any of them. If the politicians had any integrity they should have all stood down when they stitched up every single parliament brexit vote to score points over the opposition of even their own party, while totally ignoring the result of the referendum.

Our local (Tory) MP has since defected to the Lib Dems and has done everything he could possibly do to go against his own party and the views of local residents (who voted to Leave)

I'd like to see every single one of the current MPs sacked, not allowed to stand again and not given a single penny in compensation

 

[Danny Foctor]

For what it’s worth mate I don't think it’ll happen either, think Corbyn and and the likes will get their way and I can see another referendum which then raises the question of “why bother”

I don’t think Labour have a cat in hell’s chance of being elected, and that’s coming from a lifelong Labour supporter.

 

[MrRAWhite]

I don’t think Labour have a cat in hell’s chance of being elected, and that’s coming from a lifelong Labour supporter.

Not so sure mate.. With Trump coming out against labour, it will hopefully get people behind the party.. Mind Corbyn has once again shot the party in the foot with his comments regarding Shamima Begum..

 

[Comfy]

I don’t think Labour have a cat in hell’s chance of being elected, and that’s coming from a lifelong Labour supporter.

Life long labour supporter here as well mate in fact my whole family is but they’re not for me on this one or anytime as long as that terrorist supporting charlatan is leader