It takes one Nigel Farage to change that unfortunately.
Will probably relax gun laws too so we can start shooting each other like the Yanks, if he is paid enough....
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Will probably relax gun laws too so we can start shooting each other like the Yanks, if he is paid enough....
If Burnham suggests the following policies, I would be backing him:
• blocks the UK from selling F-45 parts to Israel
• suggest a 2% wealth / asset tax on billionaires
• renationalises all utilities (water, electric, gas & railways)
• block any form of working relationship with Palantir (evil bastards!)
• reverse any push towards digital ID
• pledge a profits cap on oil companies making profits when we have reserves to rely on in cases of emergency (when Iran war broke out for example) - it is a joke they can continue to have high profits in such circumstances
• put a stop to wind turbine companies turning off the turbines when they are producing too much energy just because “it drives the amount of money they can make down” - ludicrous policy from wind companies!
Other policies I think would be useful for his popularity contest (but don’t think are really that important in grand scheme of things) would be:
• pledge to tackle illegal undocumented immigration, but continue to support migration for jobs no British natives want to do (I.e - NHS, waste & council workers)
• create a national oil company for drilling in the North Sea
• referendum on rejoining EU
Essentially somewhere between Labour & Green Party policies is what the country actually needs… but maybe a bloke with a Northern accent that doesn’t suggest he can grow women’s boobs by hypnosis might have a little more chance at actually implementing some sensible policy lol
• blocks the UK from selling F-45 parts to Israel
• suggest a 2% wealth / asset tax on billionaires
• renationalises all utilities (water, electric, gas & railways)
• block any form of working relationship with Palantir (evil bastards!)
• reverse any push towards digital ID
• pledge a profits cap on oil companies making profits when we have reserves to rely on in cases of emergency (when Iran war broke out for example) - it is a joke they can continue to have high profits in such circumstances
• put a stop to wind turbine companies turning off the turbines when they are producing too much energy just because “it drives the amount of money they can make down” - ludicrous policy from wind companies!
Other policies I think would be useful for his popularity contest (but don’t think are really that important in grand scheme of things) would be:
• pledge to tackle illegal undocumented immigration, but continue to support migration for jobs no British natives want to do (I.e - NHS, waste & council workers)
• create a national oil company for drilling in the North Sea
• referendum on rejoining EU
Essentially somewhere between Labour & Green Party policies is what the country actually needs… but maybe a bloke with a Northern accent that doesn’t suggest he can grow women’s boobs by hypnosis might have a little more chance at actually implementing some sensible policy lol
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Compared to the Tories' misrule, some good work was done under Starmer. (Let's be honest. There were blunders too!) However, Starmer (or his team) sucked at communications and only the blunders and slow progress really got traction. Burnham is a better communicator than Starmer, but will that be enough?
I'm no fan of Blair or Cameron, but both were better orators than Starmer. Unfortunately, with print media skewed to the right (twas ever thus) and social media being a self-reinforcing bubble regardless of which end of the political spectrum you are on, it remains to be seen if Burnham can cut through to the public in the way that Blair or Cameron did. He's up against a bad hand economically (arguably, not as bad as the one Starmer inherited, butif when the AI bubble bursts, we're all screwed) and a media ecosystem that is far more toxic than it was in 2000 or 2010.
I'm no fan of Blair or Cameron, but both were better orators than Starmer. Unfortunately, with print media skewed to the right (twas ever thus) and social media being a self-reinforcing bubble regardless of which end of the political spectrum you are on, it remains to be seen if Burnham can cut through to the public in the way that Blair or Cameron did. He's up against a bad hand economically (arguably, not as bad as the one Starmer inherited, but
Agreed. His communication was honestly so poor that even though I would consider my politics aligned with the likes of Old Labour (Tony Benn, Dennis Skinner), under Starmer it actually had me wishing we still had Cameron in power at times, which is completely mental.
Starmer and his cabinet have been so far out of touch with every corner of the country (whether core left voters, the centre or the right) it was just embarrassing how far off it he was. Really glad he’s gone & just hope that Burnham plays his cards right and doesn’t bow down to what is a really scary push into an authoritian / totalitarian Western rule atm dictated by Musk, Bezos, Thiel and such in Silicon Valley. Needs to face up to them more than ever because it is getting scarily Orwellian day by day and it’s time we had someone who will fight for us now Labour finally won an election for the first time in 14 years!
When we are locking up Grannies for peacefully holding up signs as committing “terrorism” & handing control of the systems that run NHS & Met Police over to tech companies that harvest their data through the murdering of innocent children, something has gone seriously seriously wrong and he has to show leadership for the sake of humanity!
Can't find any mention of Starmer's demise on Led by Donkeys, Private Eye or Jonathan Pie but there shouldn't be any trouble finding posters on here who agree with you Osprey. There were a few calling for a GE, signing online petitions etc when the Tories changed their leader in 2022, it would surely be hypocrisy of the highest order not to be calling for one now.
"I believe that the removal of a Prime Mimister from office should precipitate a General Election and a political party of 160,000 members should be prevented from dictated who becomes Prime Mimister. This should work for all parties."
Thumwood Sept 4th 2022
"Which is why we need a General Election.
The Tory party has proved that it’s judgment cannot be trusted with regards to picking a credible leader."
Badger Oct 17th 2022
"Still think in a functioning democracy, we the people should be asked to vote in a GE, but it looks like that might have to wait."
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Andy and Ange also had their say about General Elections in 2022.
Burnham Repeatedly Called for General Election After Tories Changed Leader
Here is the soon-to-be Prime Minister Andy Burnham repeatedly calling for a General Election in 2022, after the Tories dumped their leader: "We need to
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Can't find any mention of Starmer's demise on Led by Donkeys, Private Eye or Jonathan Pie but there shouldn't be any trouble finding posters on here who agree with you Osprey. There were a few calling for a GE, signing online petitions etc when the Tories changed their leader in 2022, it would surely be hypocrisy of the highest order not to be calling for one now.
"I believe that the removal of a Prime Mimister from office should precipitate a General Election and a political party of 160,000 members should be prevented from dictated who becomes Prime Mimister. This should work for all parties."
Thumwood Sept 4th 2022
"Which is why we need a General Election.
The Tory party has proved that it’s judgment cannot be trusted with regards to picking a credible leader."
Badger Oct 17th 2022
"Still think in a functioning democracy, we the people should be asked to vote in a GE, but it looks like that might have to wait."
Archers Oct 22nd 2022
Andy and Ange also had their say about General Elections in 2022.
Burnham Repeatedly Called for General Election After Tories Changed Leader
Here is the soon-to-be Prime Minister Andy Burnham repeatedly calling for a General Election in 2022, after the Tories dumped their leader: "We need to
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I still agree that we should have a general election. A Burnham government is likely to be radically different from Starmer's government and will not have been what people voted for. It is a difficult question because many feel that Starmer was not based but did not really live up to his promises. He was a poor communicator.
I do feel that Burnham first needs to be given a mandate to lead the Labour party. He needs to face other candidates and , hopefully, some from the Left of the party. I would like Labour to endorse Burnham before the question is put to the nation. However, I still think he will be elected. I am sure Streeting will have very little support in the end.
The interesting question will be how will a Burnham premiership pan out for Farage. Without a general election or even a Labour Party election for leader, Burnham will be promoted by Farage as having no mandate and, of course, he will be correct. Farage will continually try to undermine Burnham in this respect and I can see the animosity between the two being far worse than under Starmer. It could pan out two ways. With no election and, at the first sign of crisis or managing a difficult issues, this will be like gold dust for Farage. I can see the media having a field day and Farage holding the moral card and describing Burnham as the PM no one wanted. However, if Burnham does seek a mandate from the people, I do think that Farage's support in the north will collapse. Burnham is not so admired down south but he is loved in the north of England where he is seen as the man who fixed Manchester. If Burnham can do to the UK what he achieved there, it will effectively make Labour the only credible political party south of the border.
For Burnham to get on and do his job, he needs to be elected as Labour leader by democratic vote and he also needs to win a general election. If he does this, I think that Reform will lose support albeit I still think that Farage will become leader of the opposition. I think that the next GE will be a contest between Labour and Reform with the Greens effectively taking over from the Liberals. Not convinced that either the Liberals or Conservatives have much relevance to future politics but Burnham has the capability to re-shape what this country is about. He just needs a mandate.
I do feel that Burnham first needs to be given a mandate to lead the Labour party. He needs to face other candidates and , hopefully, some from the Left of the party. I would like Labour to endorse Burnham before the question is put to the nation. However, I still think he will be elected. I am sure Streeting will have very little support in the end.
The interesting question will be how will a Burnham premiership pan out for Farage. Without a general election or even a Labour Party election for leader, Burnham will be promoted by Farage as having no mandate and, of course, he will be correct. Farage will continually try to undermine Burnham in this respect and I can see the animosity between the two being far worse than under Starmer. It could pan out two ways. With no election and, at the first sign of crisis or managing a difficult issues, this will be like gold dust for Farage. I can see the media having a field day and Farage holding the moral card and describing Burnham as the PM no one wanted. However, if Burnham does seek a mandate from the people, I do think that Farage's support in the north will collapse. Burnham is not so admired down south but he is loved in the north of England where he is seen as the man who fixed Manchester. If Burnham can do to the UK what he achieved there, it will effectively make Labour the only credible political party south of the border.
For Burnham to get on and do his job, he needs to be elected as Labour leader by democratic vote and he also needs to win a general election. If he does this, I think that Reform will lose support albeit I still think that Farage will become leader of the opposition. I think that the next GE will be a contest between Labour and Reform with the Greens effectively taking over from the Liberals. Not convinced that either the Liberals or Conservatives have much relevance to future politics but Burnham has the capability to re-shape what this country is about. He just needs a mandate.
Some might say lack of investment in infrastructure over fourteen years of Tory austerity has lead to schools being unable to cope with the extreme temperatures forecast.
Yeah, agreed. My kid's school is open but has an option for parents to collect kids early this week "because of the heat" and three of his class were picked up early yesterday even though the temperature here maxed out about 22 or 23. Aside from the fact it wasn't that hot, I don't get it at all. My house is no cooler than the school.
I'm not even old compared to most on here but this never happened when I was a kid. Be lucky if allowed to take ties off at senior school.
Yeah, I'm only 44 but we were just expected to get on with it.
Schools generally seem less bothered about rules and attendance these days and I think we're storing up trouble. Since Covid thousands of kids have stopped going. My sister has 4 kids. The oldest two are 11 and 13 and have various things like ADHD and Autism. Neither of them has been to school consistently for years and the 11 year old hasn't even been registered with a school for 2 years. The 13 year old has recently started worrying about this and asking things like "What am I going to do when I'm grown up?" I don't know what to say to him. He's intelligent enough but hasn't been to school so he's not going to get any qualifications.
Jeez, 40 people have drowned in France in less than a week. Mostly young people. Schools really need to educate kids about cold water shock and what to do if you get in trouble in the water.
Not sure how that's political?
Lol that is a stretch! I blame it on Thatcher taking away free milk in 1980.Some might say lack of investment in infrastructure over fourteen years of Tory austerity has lead to schools being unable to cope with the extreme temperatures forecast.
Parents should educate their children about the risks of open water swimming too.
I don’t like schools closing, but we live in a society blaming others. So schools take the risk adverse decision so they can’t be blamed.
I don’t like schools closing, but we live in a society blaming others. So schools take the risk adverse decision so they can’t be blamed.