-10 disagree 100%, the last thing that's needed is a GE. Kier Starmer listed some of this government's achievements, they should continue for a full term probably under Andy Burnham.
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Also under the radar a complete mad man seems to have won the election in Colombia.
It's funny by any ordinary metric he has had a reasonable Premiership (given the starting point) and 20 years ago would surely have seen a term out, but he is just such a bad 'politician' that ultimately he couldn't continue in the modern political landscape. Popularity is important.
That said I don't even feel much of a sense of occasion here, being PM is now akin to being a football manager. I doubt anyone without a vice like grip of their own party can now survive much longer than 3 years.
Strategically I reckon Labour have made a massive mistake going so early, there is no doubt Starmer could not lead them into the next GE but Burnham or whoever follows will be close to Starmer level unpopularity within 3 years, it is simply inevitable with the current state of the country, it needed to be within a year of a General Election for them to have any hope.
Burnham offers very little different to Starmer too (that I have seen at least), so this will be a big test of whether or not the country can be persuaded by a jovial northern accent and a bit of charm. I hope he gets a proper leadership challenge, he has only offered hot air so far so he desperately needs some scrutiny rather than being handed the job on a platter.
By the way Burnham (if he wins) ****ing hates the South of England, so good luck for all of us over the next couple of years while we get lumped in with Greater London for everything bad.
Time for Chris Mason, GB News, Telegraph, Daily Mail, Elon Musk etc to get sharpening their knives for the next one.
That said I don't even feel much of a sense of occasion here, being PM is now akin to being a football manager. I doubt anyone without a vice like grip of their own party can now survive much longer than 3 years.
Strategically I reckon Labour have made a massive mistake going so early, there is no doubt Starmer could not lead them into the next GE but Burnham or whoever follows will be close to Starmer level unpopularity within 3 years, it is simply inevitable with the current state of the country, it needed to be within a year of a General Election for them to have any hope.
Burnham offers very little different to Starmer too (that I have seen at least), so this will be a big test of whether or not the country can be persuaded by a jovial northern accent and a bit of charm. I hope he gets a proper leadership challenge, he has only offered hot air so far so he desperately needs some scrutiny rather than being handed the job on a platter.
By the way Burnham (if he wins) ****ing hates the South of England, so good luck for all of us over the next couple of years while we get lumped in with Greater London for everything bad.
Time for Chris Mason, GB News, Telegraph, Daily Mail, Elon Musk etc to get sharpening their knives for the next one.
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No guarantee that Burnham's agenda will be to continue the good work already done, the work needed to rectify the damage done by 14 years of Tory misrule has meant making unpopular decisions, thus making Starmer unpopular, with the inevitable result. No guarantee that Burnham will be his successor either.
Agree with your last paragraph, I can't see the tangerine turd and his bunch of incompetent sycophants warming to Andy Burnham if he takes over.
This is the problem. No one knows what Burnham the saviour policies are so how could you decide between him and Starmer. He's not even an MP yet!!
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It's called politics, it's a brutal business.
But when it comes to duplicitous backstabbers, you'd have to go a long way to beat the Tories (who are now dead and buried because of it).
Politically they seem to be cut from the same cloth - centre left, definitely more left than Blair though. Burnham may be stronger on renationalising public utilities though, which would be a good thing imo.
Last year Burnham is on record for saying that he wants to rejoin the EU “in his lifetime” and a couple of years before that he was very pro changing the vote to PR.
If he stays on track with those, and puts an EU referendum in his General Election manifesto, he will attract a lot of support, so long as he doesn’t keep scoring own goals as Starmer has done.
I disagree with Starmer when he said he was stepping down from the biggest job in England. Surely Tuchel holds that? 
After that huge list of Starmer's achievements posted on here the other day, I'm "staggered" to hear that he's being replaced. Big shoes for Burnham to fill if that's anything to go by.
Any way, may as well start as we mean to go on,
BURNHAM OUT!
Any way, may as well start as we mean to go on,
BURNHAM OUT!
Very disappointing.
The biggest threat to the two major parties as it turns out, is themselves. It's been 2 years for ****s sake.
How are we supposed to have consistent compounding benefits if we swap leaders every two ****ing years.
The biggest threat to the two major parties as it turns out, is themselves. It's been 2 years for ****s sake.
How are we supposed to have consistent compounding benefits if we swap leaders every two ****ing years.
His plans for renationalisation of failing utilities and transport make good reading for many. Although what that may cost and how it would be done is open to conjecture. There are some pointers to possible policies here https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clywzj2vk3zo . A policy document by close Burnham ally Mathew Lawrence is being released today https://www.mainstreamlabour.org/publications/the-productive-state which may well become part of the discussion on how to make the great leap forward.
The great leap forward? Wow. I'm no fan of Burnham but you think tens of millions will die under his leadership? Blimey.
I was thinking of the Billy Bragg song from the excellent album Workers Playtime
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No guarantee but I'm not buying a fridge or placing an insurance bet.
At least our revolutions are peaceful and in-house, not rioting in the streets. Even the music in the background of his speech was a protest, that didn't harm anyone...